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Old 22-12-2011, 11:59 PM
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Default Pollution? Abstraction?

Do you all know what is turning out to be the most damaging thing to rivers since the industrial revolution? Did you know you are paying for it? That's right you are paying for the damage to be done. You are even paying for folk to be advised on how to get round the planning authorities and how to neutralise the EA if they feel like making a few grand out of the taxpayer whilst they kill waterplants, invertebrates, fish and all the creatures that depend on them for their own existence.

Who here knows what this terrible threat to our wildlife is?

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Old 23-12-2011, 12:04 AM
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Old 23-12-2011, 12:12 AM
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Do you all know what is turning out to be the most damaging thing to rivers since the industrial revolution? Did you know you are paying for it? That's right you are paying for the damage to be done. You are even paying for folk to be advised on how to get round the planning authorities and how to neutralise the EA if they feel like making a few grand out of the taxpayer whilst they kill waterplants, invertebrates, fish and all the creatures that depend on them for their own existence.

Who here knows what this terrible threat to our wildlife is?

richard
I've seen the consultation to planners too Richard and note that we only get 14 working days to respond. It represents the clearest evidence yet that the developers are being given special privilages to wreck the rivers by circumnavigating the environmental protection procedure of an authority charged with the maintenance and improvement of our rivers (SFWFA 1975).
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All will be well when we all, led by Richard, stop washing our cars, clothes and dishes to say nothing of ourselves. Also, we will need to stop drinking, p*ssing and cr*pping, and as for watering crops so we can have something to eat......? Face up to reality - we are all part of the problem. It's sod all good railing about the problems unless you have a credible alternative and I don't see any of those being put forward. We complain about un-necessary bureaucracy and the costs associated with it, and then complain when someone says that they will cut that back and spend the money elsewhere Do you want the bureaucracy and the "protection" it may give, or not? Consultations have always been time-limited, and 14 working days is three weeks as near as dammit. How long is long enough? 6 weeks, or how about 6 months?

Just 18 months ago we were whingeing like mad about the bureaucratic load imposed by the then government. So we vote in another government knowing that they have promised to cut back the burden of officialdom on us. They didn't sneak it in like another of the stealth taxes beloved of the previous adminstration - they told us up front and we voted for it in sufficient numbers to get the changes we wanted. Then when we get those changes what do we get? Whinge, whinge, whinge! Not fair! THEY didn't ask ME!

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Bad though they are, Pollution and Abstraction are not the "most damaging thing to rivers since the industrial revolution".

If you fish a river or stream that has any weirs on it you can expect that, in a little while, the plant, invertebrate and fish life will decline along with all the creatures, in and around the river, which rely on those plants, invertebrates and fish for their existence.

The forces at work to make this happen are enormous. There is money (tax payers' money) to be made here and some folk will do very well out of this financially over the next few years. For them to make these gains they need the support of communities all over the country and they are getting it right now through ignorance and lies. Communities of folk are being fed the story that what is about to happen to their rivers is "green" and will "reduce their carbon footprint". There is a happy holiday atmosphere to it all that carries this blood soaked bandwagon along merrily.

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Do you know what it is yet?

We have little time left, it is already too late for some places but if we do nothing, river fishing will become a rare (and expensive) thing and we will be further along the route to Silent Spring!


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There are only three people to my knowledge who are trying to raise objections to this carnage, but this is on a national scale. Even if we three are successful (by no means certain) are Derbyshire and Staffordshire going to be the only counties where some of this lunacy is prevented? What about where you live and where you fish? Do you want to join in and help us?

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I take it you mean small scale hydroelectric schemes?
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We're talking hydro plants then are we?
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Especially Archimedes screw type.that's what caused the damage to the perch.

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