Any clues....i've trolled the web but i'm not much good at that kind of thing......

Thanks all

Is this the stuff??

Ken Sawada Flat Beam Shooting Line

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or PM Steve directly on here ....... he may have off loaded as he is winding down. It's the Bob Church Black stuff you are after.

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Thanks all,

can't believe the price of the stuff! 42 euros for 100m!!!

Is the bob chuch stuff flat? I really am looking for a flat shooting line. The round stuff is awful in a cross wind.

Thanks again all.

And you think flat section will be better? With a broader surface area?

Many years ago, early 70,s a guy called Don Neish marketed a flat shooting line, it was blue and very flat and very 'stiff'. After a day on a reservoir in those days you would easily believe that he was christened 'Effin Don Neish.

Over recent seasons I've experimented with a variety of 'materials' from Varivas, Guideline, Airflo, Amnesia etc. Having used them all I firmly believe that 30lb Flouro Yellow Stren remains the best material ... if you can source it.

In my experience 'flattened' profile materials are a nightmare, particularly in the inevitable event of getting a 'kink' in the line.

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I have to say that it did seem much better than the red ice & amnesia. I'm using it exclusively at Farmoor and when the wall was dampened the flat beam stuck to the wall as soon as it came into contact with the concrete. I can honestly say that i didn't have a single tangle with it.

That said, i't only after one outing and i'll listen to the voice of experiance. Why was the stren better? Was it stiffer? I def' cast further with the flat beam than the amnesia. The lack of stretch also appealed. Is there much stretch in the stren?

Thanks for the advice.

No, the Stren wasn't 'stiffer' and that was its strength. The ideal attributes of a shooting line should be that it is limp, doesn't come off the reel in coils and when it does tangle (it will) it doesn't produce unremovable kinks.

I still have and use my reservoir boat 'gear', rudder, 'big' rods and lines to match. When Steve Parton first published his book, 'Boat Fishing for Trout', Stren was readily available in bulk spools = 300m or more. It was a simple matter to renew running / shooting lines ... if, over the course of a day, a shooting line became tangled and kinked, it was a simple matter to go back to the bulk spool and load another, new, 50m.

The last time I visited Mr P at his Long Eaton premises I think I had the last of the Stren he had. Subsequently, I have found a new version of yellow Stren via Ebay that seems pretty good but not quite the same. I have a bulk spool of it somewhere in the house - it's in a box following our house move!

A lot of the newer materials, with flattened profiles, are very 'harsh' and plastic by comparison ... and expensive as you've discovered!

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I have used the Bob church flat black stuff.bloody awfull..I still like Floating polyshoot.not as thin as stren but very reliable,with no memory.

Jim

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Excuse my ignorance but what are the percieved advantages of this stuff you guys are talking about as opposed to a normal running line....Am i missing out on something I use shooting heads for Salmon and Pike on my switch rod, I have tried mono in the dark old days and found it a nightmare

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