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Old 15-11-2011, 05:20 PM
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Default Winter fishing. Be careful out there.

Now that we're approaching the winter season and there are many of us who continue to fish, I thought it might be helpful to bring up a couple of points about fishing safely in the cold.

On average, I fish as many days where the daytime high is 3 degrees C or less than I do where the high is 15 C or above. I fly fish in deep snow, I fish while standing on ice shelves, I fish in water temps of 36 F or lower.

With advances in gear and clothing making more people willing to try fly fishing year-round, a couple of safety tips that I hope everyone will find helpful and I'd encourage others with cold-weather fishing experience to add thier thoughts.

1. Felt-soled wading boots + temps below freezing = instant death.

If you are still wearing old-school felt soled wading boots, be aware that they are absolutely lethal in conditions that are below freezing. What happens is that you step out of the water and within seconds your wet felt soles freeze. Then you walk down the bank, blissfully unaware until you go to step back into the water.

One step onto either a frozen puddle or an iced over rock and you will fall instantly and without warning! Essentially, you are trying to walk on ice with wet blocks of ice on your feet. Several times I have come to my senses after falling in this way and I can tell you that it is so sudden that you will have no chance at catching yourself. You simply get your head bounced off of whatever happens to be behind you at the time. A very bad situation, obviously. Be careful!

2. Falling through the ice - it isn't like they show in the movies.

In the movies, there is always creaking and groaning and cracking for an extended period of time before someone falls through the ice. Usually there is plenty of warning before someone falls in.

Believe me, after falling through ice several times in my hunting and fishing career, it doesn't go down like that. In reality, what happens is like a hangman's trapdoor has opened below your feet. Bang! You're instantly wet and it takes your brain several seconds to even realize what has happened, much less respond.

Many people make the mistake of thinking that just because they stepped onto ice without hearing the Hollywood sound effects, they are then safe to proceed. Wrong! The best thing is to avoid walking on ice full-stop. If you fish in an area where on-ice crossings are necessary, you MUST own and be trained in using ice safety equipment including an ice bar and emergency picks.

3. Hypothermia is far more likely to kill you than is drowning.

Boat and big river anglers tend to understand the need to take precautions against drowning, but few understand that in water below 50 degrees, unless you can get out of the water and protected from the cold within minutes, a flotation vest only makes it easier to find your body. Hypothermia is a far greater threat in the cold weather months.

Unless you've experienced a sudden dunking in water below 50 F, you won't understand how debilitating it is. Essentially, you have from a few minutes to only a matter of seconds before your arms and and legs stop working and you lose your ability to swim or climb to safety.

A flotation vest is ALWAYS a good idea, but in cold weather you need more. Fishing with multiple other boats so that a quick rescue is possible, always use the kill lanyard on your outboard, have a means to get an overboard angler into the boat, and always be able to summon help by multiple means.

I love winter fishing and being out there when few others are, but IMO it needs to be recognized that more things can go wrong out there and the consequences can be more severe as the temperature goes down.

Be careful out there.

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Old 15-11-2011, 05:29 PM
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+1, Grouse, +1.
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Old 15-11-2011, 05:55 PM
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Default Re: Winter fishing. Be careful out there.

I agree completely, Grouse. Having fallen in the water with the temperature well below normal levels when I was nine I still to this day do not know how I pulled myself out and managed to walk the two miles back home. My mother said I looked made of ice and had the sense to put me in a tub of "lukewarm" water and gently rub the circulation back into my arms, legs and feet. I know I was very lucky and have never been so stupid as to venture out on what was known thin ice as I had no warning-on the ice then in ten feet of water! This was the middle of January with the air temperature at 5 below zero fahrenheit in a very bitter cold South Dakota, USA!
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2. Falling through the ice - it isn't like they show in the movies.
Absolutely true! One second you're fine. The next second you're up to your neck in icewater. No warning whatsoever. I'm just lucky that (1) only two of us were dumb enough to walk across the frozen pond, (2) where we fell in wasn't over about 4' deep, and (3) the third guy with us had matches and had a fire started almost as soon as we got to shore. If any one of those three hadn't happened that way the story could have been in the obits rather than here.
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I love winter fishing and being out there when few others are, but IMO it needs to be recognized that more things can go wrong out there and the consequences can be more severe as the temperature goes down
jeez M8,
If you like fishing when its that cold and dangerous, get your ass up to alaska and drill a few fishin' holes in the ice!
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If you like fishing when its that cold and dangerous, .....regards
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Even in our relatively benign temperate UK climate there are lessons to be learned and advice to be followed.

Last year we suffered extremes of weather with long periods of very cold weather and being 'outdoors' at this time can be wonderful, exhillerating and magical. It can also lead to almost close to death experiences.

Proper coverings for head and hands, having adequate food and warm drinks, not drinking alcohol and recognising the signs of hyperthermia can be the difference between living to fish another day or ... not.
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Default Re: Winter fishing. Be careful out there.

Not for me thanks, turn the heating up, chuck another log on the fire, and get the whisky out, Brrrrr.
Good advice though, for those that are brave/stupid enough.
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Default Re: Winter fishing. Be careful out there.

Fantastic post grouse.
Advice has been taken on board.
Having just upgraded my waders at the start off the season for the first time in 10 years
I don't think I would have ever considered my flashy new felt soles as a hazard!!!!!!!!! However you're advice makes perfect sense
This advice could be life saving for any single member on here.
Appreciated mate



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Default Re: Winter fishing. Be careful out there.

The way the weather is going here in the UK ( at the moment ) no one needs to worry about winter fishing. I could smell someone somewhere was having a BBQ today and it was just under 10c.
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jeez M8,
If you like fishing when its that cold and dangerous, get your ass up to alaska and drill a few fishin' holes in the ice!
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Why would I go to Alaska? I'll be able to walk on any water that isn't fast-flowing right here at home within 2 weeks. And ice fishing is very enjoyable, BTW.

My post, however, was directed at those who choose to fly fish through the winter months. In many cases this can bring together factors that can be especially dangerous if you don't recognize them and know how to take precautions.

I know you don't get much in the way of cold weather in the UK, but as an additional reminder, tell your kids to stay off the ice!

Kids are attracted to frozen-over water like moths to a flame and that's a very apt metaphor because it's just as deadly. Tell your kids in no uncertain terms to never, never, never go out on the ice on anything bigger than a puddle on the pavement.

Every year when freeze-up happens, there are a few days when we have kids falling through the ice. The lucky ones get wet and learn their lesson the hard way. And the unlucky ones die, as was the case last year when 3 children from one family fell through the ice on an ornamental lake in an expensive housing estate and perished. God, may no one ever have to know the misery that those parents know now.

Tell your kids to stay away from the ice.

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