Now that I've been prompted to read up on both organisations due to the SANA Hypocrisy thread, I can't for the life of me understand why there are two organisations operating with so much common interest across Scottish Game Fishing and other related matters.

This has to be a great opportunity missed, not to have a single, professional, powerful, highly respected, well funded and effective organisation covering all of that which SANA and SANACC currently purport to cover.

It's little wonder that sufficient funding and sponsorship is so hard to come by for both organisations. A single organisation would be a sponsors dream, and I'm certain would be able to attract a broader range of grants and government assistance, whilst at the same time covering the needs of Scotland's fishing clubs and individual anglers. Also, it must be confusing and annoying for the Scottish fishing clubs, their members and anglers in general having to split their loyalty and cash between two such similar organisations.

I can only assume after reading the history of both organisations, and from what I've gleaned on the forums, that egotism, petty politics and personalities have been major factors in why we've arrived at the position of "needing" both SANA and SANACC.

This situation simply does not make sense.

If it were two commercial operations being assessed for overall effectiveness, as either separate businesses or a single business, it would be a no-brainer that amalgamation would be the only sensible and viable way ahead.

Tell me I'm wrong.

Why Indeed.?

Jim

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it only serves to prove that politics, money and egos dont sit well with fly fishing, start mixing them and this is what you get, splits, arguments and fall outs.

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They were amalgamated until a few years ago, the benefits you mention did did not materialise. If it didn't happen in times of plenty it seems naive to suggest it would in the current/foreseeable economic situation.

If smaller more focussed set ups are cost effective, have fewer political problems and produce what their members require they are probably better left the way they are. There is nor reason they cannot support other similar bodies in areas where they have the same mutual interests.

SANACC is a competition body, SANA has a much wider remit including competitions. The threads you mention already indicate that some feel SANA is too competition orientated, that would not be improved by adding more competitions.

1) I wonder whose fault that was? 2) Do Scottish anglers really want so many competitions spread across two organisations? Surely it would be better with fewer competitions with greater participation.

The respective positions SANA and SANACC find themselves in will have little to do with the much used current economic climate. If you put any funding issues to one side, it is just plain daft to have two such organisations and both sides will be well aware of that.

And as for once being amalgamated, information I'm being fed does not support a historic amalgamation, but smacks more of a bad marriage where both parties were forced to live under the same roof until formal separation then divorce could be effected.

Anyway, I've asked my question and as expected sensible and constructive answers are still awaited.

Cant speak for Scotland but as far as Ireland goes ... Nail, hit firmly on the head, in my opinion.

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You have asked and stated some common sense points but it would appear that common sense is not that common.
As I mentioned in an another thread, David Biggarts book about the first 100 years of SNACA recounts a proposed amalgamation of SNACA with the Scottish Angling Association back in 1974 and the two organisations could not agree on the new name never mind any other issues. It therfore failed.
My opinion is that SANA may see competitions as a revenue stream however SANA does not have control of the main competitions and therefore there are limitations to that avenue of fund raising.

SANA have many commendable aims for the future of angling in Scotland however many of the clubs that are members of SANACC are fishing commercial fisheries and SANA has little or no influence on those businesses.
Therefore why pay a fee to SANA if you don't fish for wild fish?

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If you have a bit of time on your hand and want some light reading the split happened round or not long after these posts there are plenty more threads about.

SANA. What are they doing?

Sanacc & sana

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Campbell

Reminds me of this

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God only knows Jim, good to see the new you at the Lake mate.

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