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Old 05-11-2011, 03:37 PM
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So one of the rivers I fish for Trout has some fantastic Roach fishing , in particular through the winter . I love fishing for them with nymphs but have never done so in the Trout closed season before .

My question is if I go fly fishing for them I know full well I am going to catch Trout as well , so am I wrong in any way to fish for them either within the law or morally ??

I know you guys across the water fly fish for ya Grayling and catch out of season Trout but over here we don't have them to aim at . There is no close season for the Roach so can I target them ??
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Old 05-11-2011, 03:49 PM
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One thing is for sure Danny, if you fished with maggots or bread for the Roach you would catch far more Trout than you would fly fishing for them over winter so I say go for it!
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It's really up to you Danny, i don't see any laws broken ?....... and i don't see you disturbing to many browns with nymph alone, well, not as many as winter, 'trotting for grayling' anglers anyway, drawing hungry trout in by maggot baiting - quite possibly deep hooked as well, now that's a little ropey imo.
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As long as the trout get released then what is the problem?
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as long as the trout get released then what is the problem?
Out of season.
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Out of season.
If someone was deliberately fishing for them out of season you would have a point Fred. Same as if they deliberately targeted coarse fish in the close season.
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Fishing for grayling with nymphs isn't deliberately targeting trout but chances are you'll catch more trout than grayling.
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Old 06-11-2011, 08:25 AM
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Well it looks like I am good to go and will just get out there and have a pop at them , when the river is not bursting !

Oh and the thing about putting them back ? My fish always go back

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Same as if they deliberately targeted coarse fish in the close season.
Well I don't have to worry about that as there is no close season for coarse fish over here .
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I'm a bit puzzled by the people who seem to catch more trout than grayling in the trout closed season? Apart from a late autumn pre-spawning period (when the trout will tolerate each other's presence in larger groups than normal and when they will take advantage of any available food) the trout are difficult to catch by accident.
If you do hook a couple of trout in a pool - you've probably located a "shoal" of hungry pre-spawning trout. All it takes is a move a short way up or downstream; you will soon get away from them as they tend to be uncharacteristically densely packed. The grayling will tend to help you out as they won't be in big concentrations in areas where these "shoals" of trout occur anyway.

Beyond that - in winter proper - the trout will just be sitting in cover on the streambed somewhere and impossible to catch on bait or fly for the vast majority of the time.

So, yeah, go for the roach (using appropriately roach-tempting flies; rather than sparklers/blobs ha ha ha) and just move a short way if you hit a trout or two.
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If someone was deliberately fishing for them out of season you would have a point Fred.
On the rivers i fish there's a handful of anglers that trot for 'grayling' jef, and these guy's know the rivers as well as anyone. They often fish runs which they know to be dominated by trout, ....... (deliberately targeting ?, i'd say so ). I know almost everyone who fishes for grayling will encounter out of season browns at some point- but there's a moral/legal difference between the deliberate and the accidental catching of them. A shame really when the majority of us respect our closed season.
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