Has anyone ever tried 3 fly NZ stlye? ie 2nd fly tied to hook bend of first and 3rd fly tie to hook bend of 2nd? If you know what I mean?
And with sensible hook size and weight selection would lead to a good day without dropper tangles?

Am I way off the mark with this? Learner.

I believe this method is very popular on the fast New Zealand trout rivers. They use an oversize, buoyant indicator dry, an oversize weighted nymph to get the depth and a second nymph of a more normal size that the Trout is more likely to target.

I've never tried it myself, the flows in my usual fisheries being manageable with a single weighted nymph for the most part. I think it would take practice not to get tangles and it could be an expensive business losing multiple tungsten beads in one go.

SharkeyP

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Tried it last weekend on my local resevoir. The fish were wanting epoxy buzzers about 6 inch below the surface and most of the buzzers i had on me were sinking too fast to fish the productive area long enough.

I fished a large cdc buzzer (size 12) and tied a 6 inch lengh of flouro from the bend on the hook and a size 14 epoxy buzzer from this.

It worked really well especially when slowly twitched, many fish that had been rejecting the shuttlecock before I started this setup came up to investigate the twitching shuttlecock on the surface. Turned away from it and nailed the epoxy buzzer on the way down.

I did find it a lot harder to hit any fish that took the top cdc buzzer with the line tied from the hook though. I suspected fish trying to sip the cdc from the top of the water were been spooked by the flouro hanging off it.

Next time i fish like this i will probably use very short droppers rather than tie directly to the hook.

Would it not have been better in this case to just fish the washing line?

Possibly but id been fishing a single fly and it was blowing a gale so i didnt want to mess about tying droppers. Simply tying some flouro to the fly and another fly below was much faster and besides id always fancied giving it a go.

NZ method is a great way to fish. Less tangles & everything in a straight line. I use this style on very windy days, it can be very effective. You can use 2 or 3 flies, do whatever you feel comfortable with.

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YES!!

It's also a VERY effective method of catching fish that are feeding on hatching smuts. Size 20/18/16 thread buzzers 6" below the dry.

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If you tie flies, tie in a 1.5mm riverge leader ring on top but at the butt of your klink and use this to attatch your nz style nymph. I believe it keeps the nylon a bit further away and results on more hook ups on the dry.

Rod

Great bit of advice!!! thanks for this.

Tying to the bend of hooks obviously affects the hooking ability of the bob and dropper.

Northern spate river spider technique uses three or four spiders and or what ever you like tied directly to leader without droppers. The knot is a midline turle so that the spiders hang from the line but from a fixed point. The hooking is much improved especially when one gets down to 16's and smaller.

I am going to start using a Duncan loop as recomended by Wooton for traditional wet flies to allow much better movement of the fly in the flow.

Thankyou for a very interesting and personally topical thread.

Also playing with micro smuts tied on spade end 22's three at a time on home
prepared tippets there all three are in line. Great fun.Best hook I have found is the old Drennan feeder spade ends in 20's and 22's. They hold.

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