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Old 07-06-2011, 08:46 AM
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Hi all,

I've decided it's time to take the plunge and start tying my own flies. I'd be very grateful if people could recommend a good vice to start with? Or what sort of thing I should look for in a vice?

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Hi all,

I've decided it's time to take the plunge and start tying my own flies. I'd be very grateful if people could recommend a good vice to start with? Or what sort of thing I should look for in a vice?

Thanks,

Matt
My advice is to invest in a good vice at a meduim price with all the features of a vice two to three times more expensive.

The APEX American made vice sets new standards of usability and quality for the price featuring a full in line rotary vice with user friendly rotation handle.Machined stainless steel construction,hardened steel jaws, fully adjustable head with both pedestal and g clamp.

Features;

- 360 degree jaw rotation for inspection and trimming.
- Computer machined stainless steel construction.
- Hardened steel jaws.
- One step hook placement with grooves in jaws.
- Jaws hold hooks from size 6/0 to 32.
- Material spring on head.
- Fully adjustable tilting head.
- Pedestal base measures 5 by 3.25; allows rotaion and height adjustment..
- Adjustable clamp on pedestal allows for vertical or angled operation.
- G-Clamp allows rotation and height adjustment.
- G-Clamp fits surfaces from up to 1.75 thick.

Anvil Lifetime Warranty


Price: £99.99 at Stockport Angling.( I know it seems a lot but it's worth it)

You can buy vices for as little as £10 but you only get what you pay for.

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i would start with a rotatable regency vice, budget wise around £15 - £20. since turning my hobbie into a business I tie anywhere from 200 - 300 flies a day, and this vice has served me well. Had it for about 2 years now. easy to open jaws and angle.
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Old 07-06-2011, 09:33 AM
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Thanks for that.

The variation seems rather daunting to start out.

What would you say are the *key* features a useful and pleasing vice should have? It strikes me that something to hold the bobbin out of the way is pretty critical?
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rock solid hook hold is the most important feature of a vice. rotary head is useful but not essential, and comfort of use is high on the list too (no feature is any good if you can't spend time enjoying your hobby) I know a lot of people that tie exceptional flies on a spring lever type, as basic a vice as you can get, and the price allows you to upgrade as you advance without wasting huge amounts of money.
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Old 07-06-2011, 10:37 AM
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I'd go with the Regent as well. Had one for my first year, bought from the booty for 6 quid. Passed it on and now someone else has a start. Indestructable and all for 20.

BKs advice is sound, it makes sense, but maybe a bit pricy for a first. Ok providing you like tying and stick with it.

Key features...it MUST hold the hook firmly in place. I had one that 'let loose' at the most inconvienent times, really really irritating .

Any other 'features' are not terribly important when begining. Bobbin holders are generally only part of the package with posh vices. For the rest of us it's a simple add on for 3-4.00 from ebay. Same with a gallows tool, something you don't need to know about for a while but another cheap add on.

If you choose a pedestal style as opposed to a clamp be sure the base is weighty, or more unwanted movement.

If you want a bit of middle ground have a look at the Snowbee Fly-Mate range. Very popular, several styles/options available from 35-55.00. I've only heard good things about them.

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Expecting someone to start out paying £100 for a vice is unrealistic.
The vice I use was more like £10 & does the job perfectly well.
How about this?

Veniard No12 Standard Lever Vice

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Free p&p too, from a trusted seller.
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Spend twenty quid on a vise to start with and keep the rest of the money for quality materials, its the materials/hook/threads etc that make the fly not the vise.
Buy something rock solid, the most important bit of the vise IMO is how strongly/solidly holds the hook, all the rotation and manipulation, bells and whistles are really useless most of the time even for most experienced tiers, a Regent copy will do just fine.

Don't skimp on materials!
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I also use a regent rotatable. It's basically spring loaded jaws, opened with a lever. Cheap as chips. I've tied down to size 30 on mine - so it can be done, if not particularly easily. It's all I need.
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Regent rotary for me too great vice for price
'Acclaim' Fly Tying Vice by Caimore | eBay UK


or this very interesting design should hold hooks firm


Fly Tying Vice | eBay UK


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