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Old 06-06-2011, 09:28 PM
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Default Tapered leaders

I have never used a tapered leader before and was wondering if these have loops on both ends to attach to the fly line and also to attach the tippet?
If not and you use it just like a normal twelve foot length of straight through leader then surely it reduces the length of the tapered leader every time you use it and after a few outings its going to need to be binned.
This might be a stupid question but I have never used them before and I am sure I have had a look at them in my local tackle shop and couldn't see any loops.

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Old 06-06-2011, 09:39 PM
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Default Re: Tapered leaders

Usually have a loop at the thick end and not at the other. Best to get a leader ending in an X factor a slightly larger than the one you envisage needing and attach a micro ring to this and then the tippet to the micro ring
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Old 06-06-2011, 09:41 PM
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Default Re: Tapered leaders

Coors, Tapered leaders normally have a loop at the end that joins to the flyline. Tippets need to be tied on and yes the more you use them the shorter they become. But they also need to be replaced after a few outings due to wear and tear.
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Default Re: Tapered leaders

All the tapered leaders I have seen have had a loop at one end to tie onto your braided leader (if you use them). I dont use them myself but I reckon when they get a bit short you could tie on a bit of tippet to make it up again but eventually you will have to bin it.
Have you tried a kneedle knot on your fly line and reduced the size of the leader down to the desired strength yourself? I find this saves tippet material and is quite easy to construct with a bit of practice.
There are easy instructions on the knots section on here.

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Default Re: Tapered leaders

Snowbee ones have no loops.

I tie the 'thick end' into the line end loop and have a micro ring at the front end of the leader to attach a couple of feet of tippet to.

When running a line up a longish pool, or casting some distance from the target area I found the tapered leader produced a very good level of presentation... But I must say I find it a big pain in the ass when trying to use a 7 ft rod in close quaters, and prefer to just have a straigt through tippet - is this me or do others do the same?
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Default Re: Tapered leaders

Not stupid at all. I didn't have a mentor and never asked the question so used to get through a lot of leaders (expensive) - more often due to wind knots than changing the fly.

Depending on the overall length I want, I either start with a tapered leader then tie on a tippet ring when it gets too short, to which the tippet is attached or tie on a tippet ring right at the start. The leader tends to survive my various encounters with trees bushes etc and I now have a number of tapered leaders of diffenent lengths / thicknesses with tippet rings on that I tend to just leave on the appropriate line. As already mentioned many attach the leader to the tippet with a knot like the 3 turn water knot. A loop is not recommended not least because of the drag it will create in the water.

Tapered leaders come both with and without loops for attaching to the fly line. Lots of debate on here about the best way of attaching one to the other. If you like to use a loop and the leader doesn't have one try this knot (don't use it on the fly line though)

How to tie the Figure-of-8 loop knot

or google the perfection loop. The disadvantage of a loop-to-loop connection is that it can catch in the tip ring and is also one more snag for your line to catch on when false casting. The advantage is flexibility annd speed of changing the leader if that becomes necessary. For a permanent attachment the needle knot seems to be top dog.

I always use a tapered leader when fishing dry flies but have just received some (tapered) furled leaders from Mr Trout and may find them better than using the mono tapered - they come with loops and tippet rings

When using my 7ft I use a short length of tapered leader, about 3ft, with a tippet ring.

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Default Re: Tapered leaders

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When using my 7ft I use a short length of tapered leader, about 3ft, with a tippet ring.
That sounds more like it I aassume you chop off the thick end?
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That sounds more like it I aassume you chop off the thick end?
Good point. Some of my accumulated stash of tapered leaders are lightweight (6X) but even then I usually have to. If it's a leftover from using a 7 weight rig, definitely, otherwise there's quite a hinging effect especially as I use loop-to-loop.
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I probably should confess I thought you used taperred leaders for everything
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I probably should confess I thought you used taperred leaders for everything
Where I fish, Wifly, many folk just use straight through tippet as a leader. I usually lop off about 8 ft for sea trout at night - the fly lands where I want it to go For small trout I would prefer to use a tapered leader but I find an 11ft length of 'stuff' to swing about before the line has even left the rod tip a pain.
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