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Old 08-05-2011, 07:13 PM
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Junior DF had a fantastic day today, landing 5 rainbows from Thornton Res in Leicestershire, the largest was over 3lb and easily the largest of our fledgling fly fishing career.

I suffered the ignominy of a blank, had an early take from what felt like a sizeable fish but the braided loop gave up the ghost. Feel v bad about losing a fish in this manner, the loop was only about a month old; does anyone have some guidance on the life span of these?.

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Old 08-05-2011, 07:48 PM
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Hello...I'm also very new to fly fishing and so have been watching a lot of tutorials on Youtube, some have been useful, some not...but I did find this one about how to load a spool and fit a braided loop - I'm sure there's nothing new to you in this video, but he does give some advice on braided loops, why they fail and how to stop it...

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Old 08-05-2011, 08:14 PM
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Junior DF had a fantastic day today, landing 5 rainbows from Thornton Res in Leicestershire, the largest was over 3lb and easily the largest of our fledgling fly fishing career.

I suffered the ignominy of a blank, had an early take from what felt like a sizeable fish but the braided loop gave up the ghost. Feel v bad about losing a fish in this manner, the loop was only about a month old; does anyone have some guidance on the life span of these?.

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I had a similar problem recently - the loop was glued rather than being braided into the braid if you get my drift.

My understanding is that Roman Moser loops are the non plus ultra.
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Junior DF had a fantastic day today, landing 5 rainbows from Thornton Res in Leicestershire, the largest was over 3lb and easily the largest of our fledgling fly fishing career.

I suffered the ignominy of a blank, had an early take from what felt like a sizeable fish but the braided loop gave up the ghost. Feel v bad about losing a fish in this manner, the loop was only about a month old; does anyone have some guidance on the life span of these?.

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Guidance: Cut the thing off and make this your working method of attaching leader to fly line...

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Nothing wrong with braided loops if fitted properly.Should last at least a year of hard fishing.

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Default Re: Our best day yet, but braided loops?

Needle knot a few inches of 20lb mono to your fly line, terminated in a Perfection Loop. You should bin the braided loops.
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Nothing wrong with braided loops if fitted properly.Should last at least a year of hard fishing
Agreed, but needle knotted heavy nylon is a lot better for dry fly fishing, just cos join doesnt sink!
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Nothing wrong with braided loops if fitted properly.Should last at least a year of hard fishing.

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I would agree other than I get a lot more than a year out of mine.

I whip the ones I fit to my lines and make them myself rather than buying unless they are supplied with a line.
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Default Re: Our best day yet, but braided loops?

If you use Braided Loops - also use superglue both to fix to the flyline and set the loop .

I don't know how many I've made and supplied into the Trade but it exceeds a million and a half over the last 20 years .

What I have to point out is that numbers of my old customers buy from China these days and I have seen rather a lot made from absolutely the wrong braids and some very strange faults indeed in manufacture .

I once had the dubious pleasure of sorting out 200,00 made in Kenya for a friend and can confirm that there are maybe 15 different potential faults in actual construction by cheap inexpert labour .

I suppose I should say things like Buy British - but frankly it might be a better idea if you learnt what I learnt off Arthur Cove 40 years ago and took to needle knotting the traditional fixed yard of mono on the ends of your floaters and making a small neat sewn whipped loop for eveything else - in fact it probably is !

Having said which I've never actually had any of those three ways fail on me in practise - but the real point is I know how to make those connections and as a very old flyfisherman I don't let anybody else tie my knots for me !

Nor should you ! And if you show up here I'll teach you how - take maybe 10 minutes and you'll never lose another one !

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Default Re: Our best day yet, but braided loops?

Only ever lost one braided loop- and I'd clearly put one that was too big onto a 2wt line.

I've had to pull for a break on snagged pike lures quite a few times, with 35lb leaders, and never had the loop slip (and I don't whip or glue them).

I think they're brilliant devices - though I do always check them carefully before putting them on, and have binned dodgy looking ones.
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