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Old 19-04-2011, 07:55 AM
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I don't know if i can do this challenge, my aim is to catch a vendace in the UK.

Firstly is it legal to do so?

Secondly, if its ok, where should i go, hints tips etc...

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Old 19-04-2011, 08:24 AM
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Think they have pretty much died out in England

Edit,Power of google Derwent Water is there only last refuge in the England

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Weren't there populations in Mill Loch and Castle Loch in LochMaben?

Ah your are right Chelsea123 the power of Google as stated says not!!

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Wasn't there populations in Mill Loch and Castle Loch in LochMaben?
Now I'm

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Edit again,Loch Skeen has them and according to google 10 times more than Derwent.

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I saw something on the local news program on the telly recently about an introduction of Vendace into a high lake in Wales. I can't remember which one, but it was chosen because of its cold water. Several thousand fingerlings were released. I wish them luck................as I do you trying to catch one...............birdsnest
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Vendace are listed as a protected species under Schedule 5 of the Wildlife and Countryside Act 1981. Schedule 5 protection amounts to:

(1)Subject to the provisions of this Part, if any person intentionally kills, injures or takes any wild animal included in Schedule 5, he shall be guilty of an offence.

(2)Subject to the provisions of this Part, if any person has in his possession or control any live or dead wild animal included in Schedule 5 or any part of, or anything derived from, such an animal, he shall be guilty of an offence.

(3)A person shall not be guilty of an offence under subsection (2) if he shows that—(a)the animal had not been killed or taken, or had been killed or taken otherwise than in contravention of the relevant provisions; or(b)the animal or other thing in his possession or control had been sold (whether to him or any other person) otherwise than in contravention of those provisions;and in this subsection " the relevant provisions " means the provisions of this Part and of the Conservation of Wild Creatures and Wild Plants Act 1975.

(4)Subject to the provisions of this Part, if any person intentionally—(a)damages or destroys, or obstructs access to, any structure or place which any wild animal included in Schedule 5 uses for shelter or protection ; or(b)disturbs any such animal while it is occupying a structure or place which it uses for that purpose,he shall be guilty of an offence.

(5)Subject to the provisions of this Part, if any person—(a)sells, offers or exposes for sale, or has in his possession or transports for the purpose of sale, any live or dead wild animal included in Schedule 5, or any part of, or anything derived from, such an animal; or(b)publishes or causes to be published any advertisement likely to be understood as conveying that he buys or sells, or intends to buy or sell, any of those things,he shall be guilty of an offence.

(6)In any proceedings for an offence under subsection (1), (2) or (5)(a), the animal in question shall be presumed to have been a wild animal unless the contrary is shown.


I think I would leave them be, to be honest.
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Vendace used to inhabit both the Castle Loch and the Mill Loch in Lochmaben but no more. The lochs are now both eutrophic rather than the oligotrophic conditions they require.

SNH introduced a population to Loch Skeen and a reservoir which with brain fade is escaping me, it doesn't matter as far as I aware they didn't succeed in it anyway.
They seem to be thriving in Loch Skeen.

I think they came from Basenthwaite.

As has been said, protected though.
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red tarn in the lake district is supposed to have them, although i dont think they've been caught there for a while. And i think some small populations where stocked into some similar tarns, in an attempt to help bring them back.

You are talking about maggot fishing though ....as i dont think they take a fly much.

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Red Tarn has Schelley in it not Vendace, also a protected species therefore just as illegal to intentionally fish for them though!
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