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Oh my god, can we let this rest!

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Well, it would depend on how you would qualify "fly fishing". In all the definitions I have seen, fly fishing does not have a fixed spool reel, a coarse rod, mono main line etc etc. the only similarity would be the fly, used as a lyure. No definatly not fly fishing in my opinion.
The definition of fly foshing, surely must include recognised fly fishing gear, and not simply fishing with a fly.

Coming from the US and fishing a bunch of different states, I can say that everyone has a different opinion (and legal definition), depending on which state you go to. However two common themes which happens in most places are the line and what's on the end. It doesn't matter what kind of reel you're using or what kind of rod rings you have. It doesn't matter if the rod is 4' or 15'. I could spool up a centerpin reel with a fly line and put it on a float rod and it is fly fishing so long as it is a fly on the end.

However the line and what is on the end makes the difference. If you don't have a fly line, it isn't considered fly fishing. Some places have leader length requirements (PA has a 15' from fly line to end of mono requirement for instance). You couldn't use mono running line connected to a swivel with a mono leader for instance (though some great lakes state do allow that). Many also have a requirement that the fly is a tied imitation where at least one material is would around a hook and secured. That eliminates the molded insects and similar lures being used.

In either case, both conditions must apply- fly line and a 'tied' fly. Anything beyond that is style and preference. In my own personal way of thinking, fly fishing is used to present a light bait that couldn't otherwise be cast on a normal rod. You use the weight of the line to propel the bait, not the other way around. That is a fundamental difference for me.

To answer the 3 scenarios-

1- no, you're fishing flies on a spinning rod. The fly is acting as a bait/lure
2- No to me, as the weight you're using is doing the casting and not the line (though in some places this is legal fly fishing)
3- Yes. The waggler float it an indicator no different than any other type of indicator. I use small thill floats as indicators all the time as they are very effective and visible.

It depends - if, while using whatever method, you spend most of your time looking down your nose at what everyone else is doing instead of enjoying your own sport, it's likely that you are fly fishing.

Bit of a daft scenario though. All fisheries are run on owners discretion, an owner could refuse to allow you entry, because he didn't like the colour of your wellies, or haircut or whatever.

Personally if I were a fishery owner, and someone showed up with that gear. I'd laugh, go and have a sit with them, make sure they were just using artificial bait. Maybe eat their sandwiches, probably have a cup of tea.

Hope they've bought some crisps, I like crisps, if you have a pickled egg in a bag of cheese & onion, oh there's nothing like it. Quite like a fizzy pop, when the weather is nice, not so keen on the fizzy pop being to cold, makes me hiccup. Did you know that eating to hot a chilli can make you hiccup, I didn't. I saw it on masterchef last night. I like masterchef, amazes me how far they come on. I think the Italian lady will win.

Sean

Thats sounds like a right treat!! Gonna go and try it now!!

Ben

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