Hello everyone,

I need to try and create a new welded loop on my Rio Gold. It came with a welded loop from new, which was great and worked a treat.

I have done plenty of welded loops on all other makes of flyline, Snowbee, Airflo and had no problems.

What i normally do is to cut the end of the line at an angle, place heat shrink tubing over the double backed line, use really hot hair straighteners or a lighter to heat the line up, through the heat shrink. I can then normally roll the line between my fingers and it welds together. I then leave it cool, cut off the heat shrink and its done.

I have tried using the same method on the Rio but the line does not really melt like the others, the line crumbles and does not really melt as such!

I know they are made from different types of materials etc Just wondering if anyone has had a similar problem and if so how you got around it?

I don't really want to fit a braided loop, or needle knot it?

Any advice or ideas!?

Rio do not take a homemade weld very well.

Jim

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Have you tried doing a perfection loop, then using the heat shrink over the knot to soften the coating...so you are relying on the knot for strength and just tidying up the place with a smooth coating.

Failing that you are going to have to go back to the tred and tested Albright method then.

Can't help with the welded loop as i dislike them and cut mine off my Gold as soon as i spooled it.I use minicon's and find them much better,less heavy and wake

Neil

Maybe its a 'Thermoset' rather than a 'Thermoplastic' material (if I remember my HND Materials lessons from 25 years ago correctly). Thermoset's (like PVC) can be re-melted and re-set whereas Thermoplastics go through a chemical process when setting and cannot be remelted. I guess that a food analogy would be between chocolate and a baked cake.
May well be talkin' jive here...

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I have cut my Gold WF6 at an angle (as you describe) then superglued a small loop using Zap A Gap: my thinking being that with a loop-to-loop line-to-leader connection, all I need is for the flyline loop not to slip. I can't guarantee this will work as I'm still testing, but mine is OK so far...

Don't forget you will have at least 6" of level line before the taper starts so you have room to get it wrong once or twice before having to resort to a nail knot.

Andrew

PS if all else fails you can nail knot a short length of suitable thickness, suitable stiffness nylon to the flyline, then tie a Perfection Loop in this to have loop-to-loop connections to your choice of leader

Wrong way round, thermosets go through a chemical curing reaction and cannot be reshaped or formed, Thermoplastics just go pliable and can be reheated and shaped

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Shoot RIO a e mail ("contact us" on their web site) and you'll find they're very quick to respond. If the welded loop 'gave up the ghost they may very well replace the line with a new one.

fae

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Ah yes! No wonder I failed...

Cheers!

Andy

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Hi Everyone!

thanks for the input!

Think im going to try a braided loop!

Anyone who has used one, does it affect turnover much?

Rhodri