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Old 04-03-2011, 02:08 PM
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It seems that before very long the majority of mobile users will be using smartphones. The added functionality of these devices should mean that in time it ought to be possible to not only purchase a day, week or whatever period of fishing permit with your mobile, but also to have the ‘permit’ stored on your phone in the form of a email or something similar. So if bailiff or warden approaches you to see your permit, you simply show them something on your phone.

Anyone know whether clubs and fisheries are gearing up for this kind of hassle-free, paperless future?
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Maybe not here yet.

But when I was in NZ last year the guide had my permit downloaded to his iPhone ...
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a new thought; this will be a great way to deal with catch returns, too.
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I'll stick with a paper license thanks, ruddy mobiles are getting too complicated as it is, and if you dropped it in the river when fishing, you wouldn't be able to show a bailiff anything.
Apart from the fact you would have to have your mobile with you at all times just in case.
Not for me David, call me old fashioned, but I haven't got over losing pound notes yet.
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It seems that before very long the majority of mobile users will be using smartphones. The added functionality of these devices should mean that in time it ought to be possible to not only purchase a day, week or whatever period of fishing permit with your mobile, but also to have the ‘permit’ stored on your phone in the form of a email or something similar. So if bailiff or warden approaches you to see your permit, you simply show them something on your phone.

Anyone know whether clubs and fisheries are gearing up for this kind of hassle-free, paperless future?
Nooooooooooooo!

I hate the fu king things!! not only do they cut out when ever you need them, or run out of batteries, or have no signal, you have to fiddle with them to try and find the right program, fiddle with them to open the bloody program, then you'll lose reception then the thing will run out of batteries, then you'll drop it in the bl oody lake. christ help you if you want to make a phone call.. crackle crackle crackle beep beep beep then the screen goes black and then you've lost the blo ody permit.

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How appropriate that you've come in on this Mr Trout! You'd be a member of Penrith AA, if I'm guessing right. Now suppose I'm a PAA non-local member living in Lancaster, and I wish to use the PAA exchange permit scheme to have a day on Windermere, Ambleside & District fisheries in the south of Cumbria. According to the PAA website this is how it’s done;

The exchange agreement is for 2 tickets which are available from Sykes Tackle Shop and are on a one-day basis only. They can be taken out one day and must be returned in time for the next morning.’

So I’ve got to drive all the way to Penrith and back (90 miles) to pick up a permit, and the same journey again to return it! Madness IMO (but I’m not knocking your club). How easily could these kind of arrangements be made using emails/smartphones etc? And if oil hits $160 a barrel every bit of unnecessary travel to fanny about with stone age permit issuing arrangements will cost money. Roll on universal smartphone use, I say!
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How appropriate that you've come in on this Mr Trout! You'd be a member of Penrith AA, if I'm guessing right. Now suppose I'm a PAA non-local member living in Lancaster, and I wish to use the PAA exchange permit scheme to have a day on Windermere, Ambleside & District fisheries in the south of Cumbria. According to the PAA website this is how it’s done;

The exchange agreement is for 2 tickets which are available from Sykes Tackle Shop and are on a one-day basis only. They can be taken out one day and must be returned in time for the next morning.’

So I’ve got to drive all the way to Penrith and back (90 miles) to pick up a permit, and the same journey again to return it! Madness IMO (but I’m not knocking your club). How easily could these kind of arrangements be made using emails/smartphones etc? And if oil hits $160 a barrel every bit of unnecessary travel to fanny about with stone age permit issuing arrangements will cost money. Roll on universal smartphone use, I say!

David you are dreaming if you think the likes of Tom Roslyn at sykes, or Pigneys in Appleby will ever do what you intend.
They are still in the stone age, you can buy one 6" nail at Pigneys ironmongers and it will be wrapped in brown paper for you, not joking.
The thought of Jeff, at Pigneys, who I know well, operating a computer or a smartphone to issue you with a swap ticket is laughable.
It wont happen in mine or your lifetme, hopefully.!!
So what you suggest is, we all stand in the river with £400 worth of I phone, just in case the bailiff turns up for your ticket, you fall in and soak the damn thing, and is now useless, to both you and the bailiff.
As Browniebasher said, in most areas you can't get a signal anyway, what do you do then, take all your rod apart, walk back to the car, drive ten miles with the bailiff untill you get a signal, just so you can show him on your phone that you are legally fishing.
No thanks, paper all the way for me, if you want to fish PAA join the club, it was a nuisance getting the swap ticket for Appleby AA, so I joined that as well, still cheaper than a soggy smartphone.
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The sooner they discover that mobile phones are responsible for Altzeimers the better.

I don't trust them, I don't like them and they most definitely emit radio signals that will do damage to your brain cells. I don't have enough brain cells to be able to afford to waste any using one of these most infernal contraptions. They are responsible for the lack of conversational English amongst our younger generations - they can't spell properly because they use numbers for certain words and drop their vowels too.

They are the spawn of Satan. There is nothing wrong with a quality fountain pen, filled with Parker Quink and set to work on some proper letter writing paper. I still do my accounts using paper and ink. They cannot be fiddled with by the Tax Man.
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Here here, M8.
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No no no, Stephen! I hope folk won't get the impression that Cumbrians are technophobes. My club further south - Winderere, Ambleside & District AA issues day tickets online, with payment via paypal (along with 10 actual permit outlets). So the only thing that my club has to do to embrace smartphones with email, is not to insist that day ticket purchasers have to carry an email print out when they're at a fishery. With the coming generation of mobiles the whole business of buying something on paper that gives you permission to fish will go the way of the dinosaurs. And you heard it here first!
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