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Old 11-01-2011, 02:00 PM
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Default Technique of casting with short rod and long rod

I like to know if your technique of casting is different when you use a short rod or a long rod.

I refer at the same place fishing. Tanks

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There is definatly a difference, and your technique should be adjusted according to the loading characteristics of the rod. Longer rods tend to have a higher swing weight, which makes the tip move accross a wider arch. This would inevitably lead to the longer rod taking longer to load. Not neccessarily slower to load, just longer in time, between forward and backward false casts. due to the larger arch that the tip has to cover to get from the loading point on the forward cast to the loading point on the backward cast. If you can feel the point at which the rod loads, you should be able to time the forward and backward casts according to the characteristics of the rod.
Depending on the length of the rod you are talking about, it can require some adjustment.
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I like to know if your technique of casting is different when you use a short rod or a long rod.
My casting technique is the same, I alter the tempo for different rods and teams of flies

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interesting thread this one.........currently I have a 9-1/2 foot 6 weight rod which I use for lakes & reservoirs........and I have seen two particular individuals with 7 foot rods who were casting some quite long distances........I'm a design engineer by trade and this got me thinking........the shorter the rod, the more load you can exert on the line, and the quicker it will load up (as mentioned above), hence I'm considering investing in a 7 foot rod in the 6-7 weight region........does anyone use a 7 foot 6-7 weight rod on a regular basis that could perhaps pass comment???

I already have a 7 foot 3 weight fladen vantage for small rivers and I really like it, but its too flimsy for anything too serious.
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There is definatly a difference, and your technique should be adjusted according to the loading characteristics of the rod. Longer rods tend to have a higher swing weight, which makes the tip move accross a wider arch. This would inevitably lead to the longer rod taking longer to load. Not neccessarily slower to load, just longer in time, between forward and backward false casts. due to the larger arch that the tip has to cover to get from the loading point on the forward cast to the loading point on the backward cast. If you can feel the point at which the rod loads, you should be able to time the forward and backward casts according to the characteristics of the rod.
Depending on the length of the rod you are talking about, it can require some adjustment.
I agree with you, if the rod is long you will have a greater arc, but I refer at the technique of casting. In other word, when you cast with 9',6'' # 7, do you use the same technique if you use a 7',6'' # 3 ?

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There is definatly a difference, and your technique should be adjusted according to the loading characteristics of the rod. Longer rods tend to have a higher swing weight, which makes the tip move accross a wider arch. This would inevitably lead to the longer rod taking longer to load. Not neccessarily slower to load, just longer in time, between forward and backward false casts. due to the larger arch that the tip has to cover to get from the loading point on the forward cast to the loading point on the backward cast. If you can feel the point at which the rod loads, you should be able to time the forward and backward casts according to the characteristics of the rod.
Depending on the length of the rod you are talking about, it can require some adjustment.
I guess a bit like a metronome..........shorter faster, longer slower.......birdsnest
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I agree with you, if the rod is long you will have a greater arc, but I refer at the technique of casting. In other word, when you cast with 9',6'' # 7, do you use the same technique if you use a 7',6'' # 3 ?

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i'd say you cast more with the tip of the rod with a longer rod, less stroke,

with a shorter rod you tend to use the whole thing, more movement, more water hauling too.
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I use rods ranging from a 7'6" 3 wt to a 9'6" 7 wt in varying actions, all require adjustments to the timing of the casting stroke but the technique is essentially the same.. lines with different taper profiles also seem to change the loading of these rods, more line may need to be aerialised to achieve the same loading, and thus further change the timing again but not the technique.
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In Italy casting light and heavy is different. With the short rod and light line we use all space our arm while with the long rod and the heavy line, we use the power rod. otherwise the casts like low parallel or under tip or superimposed are very difficult.
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