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Old 13-11-2010, 11:21 PM
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I Think I'm in the market for a compact camcorder for a forthcoming weeks destination fishing, but a few questions spring to mind,
will my Olympus 770sw suffice in the video department.
If I need to buy a cheap camcorder,should I buy a waterproof version,(normally only digital zoom) or should I go for Optical zoom as being(in my mind)more important.
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Old 14-11-2010, 12:59 PM
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Jim,
Check out when you arrive as you'll probably find better deals than here.
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Good point Ian.

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Ahh, now, Jim, I can help you.

Cameras are my trade (I'm a photographer and sometime videographer).

If video quality is important to you, you'll want to go with optical zoom. Digital zoom is pretty much somewhere between useless and terrible. All you get is bigger pixels. A waterproof option is obviously good for any pastime involving water, but I would suggest that unless you are clumsy, out in the thrashing rain, or into underwater photography, a waterproof camera/camcorder is not necessary. I often take a camera or camcorder fishing, and have never dropped it in the water. If you're particularly worried about it, get a neck strap and put it round your wrist or neck whenever the camera is out of your bag.
You can buy waterproof housings for cameras/camcorders, should you be wanting to use it while, say, wading.
As for formats (I know you haven't asked, but while we're on the subject...), the modern camcorders are great - small, light, easily put in a pocket, but unless you have a mighty computer avoid the Hi-def camcorders. Most use a format which requires major processing and most people's computers simply grind to a halt.
There are some memory card camcorders that are good. They give you good enough quality video but without the need for an Uber PC.
Then there is good old mini DV, which I actually really like. The quality is good enough for home use, and your footage is always backed up (HDD camcorders and to an extent SD card camcorders require you to back the footage up to your PC if you want to keep it, then to a portable HDD or worse, DVDs if you want to make sure it's safe). The only trouble with mini DV is that the camcorders are getting quite difficult to get hold of (on the highstreet, at least).
DVD camcorders, last time I looked, were never that successful. The image quality was poor, and I seem to remember there were questions about the reliability of the disks.

I recently got a Canon HDD camcorder for about £400. The quality is great, though, as I mentioned, you need a powerful PC to do anything. One of the best things is the low light performance. I also have a little JVC sd card camcorder, which, while not so good in poor light, is wonderfully small. I fit in a coat pocket and it starts practically instantaniously - that is one of the beauties of SD card camcorders, there's no time lag from initialising the disk as with HDD camcorders, or with the tape loading as with mini DV.

In my book, the best brands are Canon, Panasonic and Sony. I'd watch out for anything from a company which has no long term experience of cameras - Samsung, Hewlet Packard etc.

Hope that's a help.

let me know if there's anything else you want to know.
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Thanks for that.very usefull.I am a fan of still photography.but just thought that a video memory of some nice fish on this holiday would be good,but I really don't want to do to much of it. That's why I was looking at SDHC mini camcorders.
My Olympus w/proof digital camera has a video function,Which Iv'e never really explored,Is it an option.

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Jim, check out your camera cards, get a few more as spares and just shoot unitll their full and change to the next one.

I'm not up on the quality of your camera, but with some practice should be more thank good enough for home use.

get the biggest memory card your camera can take and...practice

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Jim,

I have fairly high spec compact digital camera (canon G9). I have used the video function on it and it is quite good with quite a big drawback. The minute the picture has to move side to side (action shots as it were - someone running, or even a panning motion shot), the recorded shot becomes noticeably jerky on playback. This is not noticeable when there's not much movement in the shots. With my camera, I suspect I'd lose a lot of detail if I was filming a fish being played and landed for example. For this reason I ended up buying a dedicated video camera. Went for a budget model with a hard disk (30 GB). Model was sony dcr - sr35e. Very compact and a pleasure to use. 30 gb provides many, many hours of recording time. Download it to a pc and then record to a DVD. Packaged software does require some patience and perseverance. TV Picture is good and it cost around £250. I would recommend it although you do get what you pay for and I'm sure you would see increased quality if you spent more. I am however very happy with my purchase.

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Hi Jim

Really, it all depends what you want. I've used the mpeg video function on a compact camera, and it is okay for short youtube type videos. If you're just looking for that kind of thing, then your current camera should be okay. If maybe you want to push it a bit, make an edited video, then maybe not such a good option.
I usually go away once a year with a friend. We often go cycling, and a week's worth of video, edited and burnt to DVD is a great memory. By chance, it's the same friend I go fishing with. We're planning a trip to the highlands next year, and I wouldn't be without my video camera.
What all that waffle means is, if you want to capture something special and put it down so you;ll always have something to remember, then a dedicated video camera is the way to go. If you're just looking to record a day or so with not that much quality, but a quality which is certainly viewable on a computer, then your camera should be okay. You'd have to check how high a quality mpeg it can take, though. If it's low, it might end up pretty pixilated (much like mobile phone footage). You might also find that you need more memory cards for it, as, if it records in high quality MPEG, it might eat up cardspace.

If it were me, I'd go with a separate sd card camcorder, just for the fact are a dedicated video device, and the quality is so much better. If your PC isn't that powerful, you can always knock the record quality down so it's easier to edit.

Of course, if you like still photography, as well, it means carrying one more device, and if you're on holiday, one more spare batter, one more charger. I don;t mind, myself, as I prefer to trade off a bit of sweat for the memories. And I have to say, there's so much I forget which is so pleasant remembering when putting a video of summer together over the long, long winter.

All the best

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