Hi everybody

I was fishing with the wind coming from right (the rod side, as i'm right handed) the other day and I got tailing loops almost every other cast I normally don't get many tailing loops in quiet weather, wind from left or wind from behind. I was forced to angle the rod to the side as the fly came very close to me if I casted as I normally would. But I got tailing loops very often The fly simply catched the fly line in the end of the cast.

Am I getting tailing loops, because the wind is carrying the tippet and the fly into the fly line, when the wind is coming from the rod side? The leader and fly is traveling to the right side of the fly line when casting so it seems logic to me, that it is blown into the fly line when the wind is coming from the rod side. But am I right on this one?

Sorry if my English is bad, but I'm from Denmark.

Regards Jonas

Due to excess power in the forward stroke probably because you were trying to force the line out in the awkward wind rather than your normal cast in easier conditions...

I agree the tailing loop is from you trying to force the cast. Next time, turn around with your back facing the water, and release the line onto the water on the back cast. Problem will be solved.
Oh, and your English is perfect..

Okay thanks! I will be thinking about not putting too much power in my cast next time If it fails I will try turning around I just want it to work without those annoying tailing loops And thanks for the compliment

Yes, remember that the tailing loop occurs when the forward cast is started, before the line has fully extended on the back cast. The line can only load the rod, once it has straigtened out, and the momentum of the line in it's attempt to still continue on it's path, causes the rod to bend backwards. this is called the loading point. Once you feel the rod pulling backwards, it is time to initiate the forward stroke. If you initiate the forward stoke before the line has straigtened out, you won't be able to feel the loading point, and it is a natural reaction to speed up the forward cast to compensate for this, thus drawing the line onto itself. The fact that there is wind from the right side, is always going to be an inconvenience, and even with a perfectly timed cast, there is the risk that the line will blow towards your right shoulder.

Turning round works - puts the wind in the right place.

So does learning to cast left handed - this is not a hard thing to learn but it's not a fast thing either - try it any time the wind is on the wrong side - and have another go any time the wind falls calm.

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If that is the case, probably aint your casting stroke!
Just the strength of the right to left wind!
Knowing how many people from the Scandinavian countries like to release the cast higher in the forward stroke, that may be part of the problem.
Try releasing cast 10 to 15 feet above target line, and turn your rod hand slightly to the left (quarter turn), this causes line to move away from leader with wind!
Dont know why it works, but it does!
regards
bert.

Was fishing on wed in what eventually turned out a bloomin gale force wind, played havoc with my casting too. Decided I'd had enough , packed up and on making my way back to the car seen this guy casting in the opposite direction to the water but keeping it high as wind was coming onshore, on his backcast which would go out onto the water he would let the line down onto the water with some success, never seen this before.

Andre, that is only true if the tailing loop is caused by rod creep (moving the rod in the direction of the next casting stroke before the line is fully extended), however in this case it sounds more like to much power trying to over come the wind, with out adjusting the stroke length (distance rod hand is moved) and casting arc (angle rod is stopped at) .
Sorry if that is a little technical.


Jonas,

When casting with the wind from right to left try adjusting the way you hold the rod so that the rod tip is over the left shoulder. The easiest way to explain this is, with you arm relaxed and at your side bend at the elbow and point to the ceiling. Now bend your wrist so that you are pointing to the gap between your eyes, if you hold the rod in this position the rod tip will be on your left side. This should be the only thing you need to adjust now the rest of the cast will be the same.

It does take a little practice.

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That's what works for me, picked up the trick of "cross casting" in America. The wind just blows the line away from the rod. It also helps me with accuracy as my left eye is my master eye, despite being right handed when casting. I do lose distance but that doesn't really matter on a river.

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