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Old 08-01-2010, 11:34 AM
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Hi this is a fly I introduced to the competition river scene almost a decade ago.
John Tyzack amongst many others used to use this fly to great effect after I introduced it to him. It is a fantastic Grayling fly fished on the point of a Czech
nymph rig- I've had days when all my other flies (pink shrimps, Czech nymphs) drew balnks and this was the only catching fly- considering most experienced Grayling anglers would consider the middle dropper as THE catching fly this I think is significant. Usually these were colder days or when the river was high and the grayling are stuck on the bottom feeding on cased caddis. Its a bit different but simple to tie. Well worth any of you far more experienced and superior fly tiers than myself experimenting with. Best of luck.

Tying the Cased Caddis Polyphaetus Fly Pattern

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Hi this is a fly I introduced to the competition river scene almost a decade ago.
John Tyzack amongst many others used to use this fly to great effect after I introduced it to him. It is a fantastic Grayling fly fished on the point of a Czech
nymph rig- I've had days when all my other flies (pink shrimps, Czech nymphs) drew balnks and this was the only catching fly- considering most experienced Grayling anglers would consider the middle dropper as THE catching fly this I think is significant. Usually these were colder days or when the river was high and the grayling are stuck on the bottom feeding on cased caddis. Its a bit different but simple to tie. Well worth any of you far more experienced and superior fly tiers than myself experimenting with. Best of luck.

Tying the Cased Caddis Polyphaetus Fly Pattern

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Old 08-01-2010, 04:57 PM
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i dont understand the need for the pin... why not just use a swimming nymph hook ??

similar to this

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incidentally this sint my take on your fly just something i had photographed on the hook i was talking about...

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Old 08-01-2010, 05:23 PM
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Hi I agree this is similar- my personal opinion is that because the weight and eye on the polyphaetus are at different angles (i.e the angle of pull around the fulcrum to get a bit technical) then the poly fishes that much better- I have fished the swimming nymph hook before but for less bottom based patterns- I often demonstrate the poly by finding a nice bit of shallow fast water and people can be amazed when they see the nymph "walking" across the bottom- obviously it takes a bit of control to achieve it- I don't think the same effect would work on the swimming nymph hook because the pull would lift the whole fly instantly.

Another difference is that the partridge hackle is wrapped around the pin head and therefore the legs gills etc are in a more "realistic" position- not that I am a great fan of realistic flies but it seems more natural and looks better to my eye this way.

The fly you show would certainly work- it's a good fly!

Cheers Jonfish.
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Old 08-01-2010, 10:12 PM
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very nice nearly the same as the peeping caddis which I think was invented by Hans van Klinken, just the opposite way round.

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Hi There,

Jonathon...long time no see....

I wonder what you think about using a jig hook for this type of fly.

The European anglers certainly like them.

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Hi Robbie,

great to hear from you- will have to get up on those fantastic border rivers again soon! Maybe for the MB hatch in April.

The Jig hook would work- its a similar principle really- but as with ick's fly above it still wouldn't have the same aspect as the polyphaetus- for the picture on the link I just took it out the vice and dropped it on a piece of paper- A jig hook or ickys fly would lie flat naturally whereas this pattern sits in its correct "natural" aspect i.e. hookpoint up weight and legs on the ground.

If you fancy a day on the Tweed on the MB around Sprouston drop me a line- We can choose a calm spring day when we can actually cast.

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very nice pattern tied a couple up the other day just want to see how they fishi now
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