are you talking from experience john ?

jim

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Jim,

I would never have dreamt of using such a weapon at night on the Endrick, on either floating or sinking line.

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quick question where did you get all the materials, just starting to try fly tying so aint sure where to go for the stuff

I may stand to be corrected here, but wasn't Mr. Harwood once the full time pro fly dresser for Peter MacKenzis-Philps ? The first time I saw this pattern was in M.P's catalogue & he said it was his top fish catcher and that lots of salmon/sea-trout were being taken on it as well as trout & grayling. It was as I recall his favourite fly.

K.M. for the feather go to Steve Cooper a.k.a. Cookshill flytying. give him a call on 01782 388382 most evenings, he's a member of this forum & will help you out more that you would think possible. The wire/thread/ hooks should be easily had from most tackle dealer that do trout gear. By the way welcome to the forum.

John did tie this fly for P,M,P. but he was not full time.only tying as a hobby.

Jim

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I used the Endrick Spider a lot years ago and never touched a thing on it it was always on my leader when i fished the teviot and tweed, usually a size 12or 14 on the point

After reading this thread i will now tie some more up and try them again

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Try a size 8 for the salmon.

Jim

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Cheers for the tip! fingers crossed eh

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A good wee fly for rivers, fished on the tail it has been my go to spider on the Gryffe & other rain fed rivers.Best as a Spring fly & again at back end. I dispense with the weighted body though & on occasion I use a Woodcock neck hackle & find that Tutta like that as well as the standard dressing. All in all a good we flee & one river anglers should have in their box.
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Meant to say, one thing I found useful & whilst I can not prove it adds to the fly attractivness is to use a whip finish of bright orange thread such as the UTC 70 at the head (got to find a way to get rid of it )
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