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Old 24-07-2011, 08:55 AM
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Default Endrick spider - does anyone know a good sbs?

It's the body that has got me confused???
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try this one http://www.flyforums.co.uk/fly-tying...ck-spider.html.
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Default Re: Endrick spider - does anyone know a good sbs?

Try tying in a small copper bead. The step by abv is a good one. The copper bead allows you to keep the body profile down.
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Default Re: Endrick spider - does anyone know a good sbs?

Thanks fellas

It's the cock pheasant centre tail that has me flummoxed.... I assume it is tied in at the tail and then wrapped? I cant see it in the SBS
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Default Re: Endrick spider - does anyone know a good sbs?

I think the body is just the same as a pheasant tail nymph. Tie the pheasant tail fibres in at the tail and wind up the hook. Counter wind the copper wire over the pheasant tail fibres. There are some nice variations by John Tjzack here if you want to experiment http://www.theessentialfly.com/trout...er-colour.html

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Default Re: Endrick spider - does anyone know a good sbs?

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Try tying in a small copper bead. The step by abv is a good one. The copper bead allows you to keep the body profile down.
And then is does not become an Endrick Spider...
Most of these flies are designed with a purpose. Adding additional weight by way of a copper bead alters the intent.
Having said that the same fly with a bead does work.
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And then is does not become an Endrick Spider...
Most of these flies are designed with a purpose. Adding additional weight by way of a copper bead alters the intent.
Having said that the same fly with a bead does work.
So does the same fly, without the bead but with some copper wire under the body. I prefer that version on the back of a freshet.
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Interesting choice of wording, GFL. I would normally refer to a spate but when I use 'freshet' people haven't a clue what I am talking about... I prefer freshet.
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Interesting choice of wording, GFL. I would normally refer to a spate but when I use 'freshet' people haven't a clue what I am talking about... I prefer freshet.
I don't think I've ever discussed the definition of freshet before now, but I would consider a big water to be a spate, then as the water fines down, subsequent smaller spates are called freshets. More often, when I think of or use the word freshet, I'm thinking of a small tributary trundling along nicely just at, or falling below brim level, and a nice strong tea colour where you can still see the pebbles shining where the sun comes through the trees. The Endrick spider itself has been a good catcher of trout for me, and tied with silver body then the pheasant tail wrapped in loose turns (allow the glint of the silver) works for sea trout. And you can use it all season long and be confident of taking fish. I've even heard it is a renowned taker of salmon tied accordingly sized.
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Interesting.... not wishing to divert from the Endrick Spider.... but:


The Devonshire term 'freshet' - or the word as applied on Dartmoor and as I would understand it, is defined in Eric Hemery's High Dartmoor Land and People (considered by many to be a definitive work on Dartmoor, by river valley):



"FRESHET A term applied to a rare and alarming phenomenon resulting froma cloudburst above a stretch of river confined between steep hillsides. The instantanous rise in level, combined with the effect of the water restricted by natural obstacles to a narrow channel, creates a wall of water. A freshet on the W. Dart, in the closing years of the eighteenth centuary, carried away Hexworthy clapperbridge - a circustance that led to the provision of an unusually high arch in the (present) one buit to replace it."



The W. Dart has experienced this on several occasions. (this is beyond a spate):


Two friends of mine were salmon fishing when their dogs started going nuts and howling, running around, then there was a noise like a helicopter coming down the river. The lads ran for cover as a wall of water swoooshed down the valley covering well beyond normal spate levels.
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