Hook for North Country Spider?

[darwin]

Hi all,
Would I be OK tying spiders on the Kamasan B160 size #16 only or would you recommend a different size?
I am trying to stay with TMC and Kamasan hooks only to keep my inventory as lean and simple as possible. Too late, but I am trying.
Many thanks!

[roll cast]

Darwin found this on google think from what I scan read of it, its your personal choice really but they do start and go into hook eye angles and all that.
Tying Spiders-what hook?
AL

[emerger1981]

Hi darwin,
like RC said it is down to own preference..
dont get me started!
b175 sz 14 and b160's sz 14-16 are fine for the job mate

[darwin]

If it was up to me I would tie everything on a size 10 and tell the fish to take what they are given! But that would not work so good.
Al, thanks for the link. I can not read it now due to our firewall but will look it over tonight.
Emerger... you can "get started" if you would like, its rather fun to watch you go off
Now if I can only find a pair of snipe wings. Thanks guys

[christy27]

I use Alec Jackson's North-Country hooks in size 15 and 17. They are straight eye and very sharp. You can have a look at them on the
flytyingboutique.com website.

[emerger1981]

Originally Posted by darwin

If it was up to me I would tie everything on a size 10 and tell the fish to take what they are given! But that would not work so good.
Al, thanks for the link. I can not read it now due to our firewall but will look it over tonight.
Emerger... you can "get started" if you would like, its rather fun to watch you go off
Now if I can only find a pair of snipe wings. Thanks guys

i'll take that as a compliment...
meaning you cant get enough of my knowledgeable self
dont forget the golden plover wings and english partridge..

[darwin]

Originally Posted by emerger1981

i'll take that as a compliment...
meaning you cant get enough of my knowledgeable self
dont forget the golden plover wings and english partridge..

yea that's it... ya mean I gotta buy more dam wings? OY

[ickypimp]

mustad R50 work well, i would warn that they are big hooks, the 14 is what i would consider to be a 12

[BRUCE1]

try grip hooks in 11011bl from phil at the fly tying boutique, kamasan b175's,hyabusa 761's, tmc101's and 103bls, varivas 2120wb's,even the curved 2200's

the list is endless really tie them on what you want !!!!

[flyfishwithme]

Having used most of the hooks available (and quoted here) and fished with them by myself and with clients I think I have now formed a pretty good view of the sort of characteristics I look for in a hook.

The first thing is not to get a hook with too short a shank. Even the old masters advocated a standard length shank and they added that the body should be tied short. In others no further than between the bard and the point of the hook.

The next is to look for a hook that is made of fine wire. Again, if you are fortunate enough to see some of the old flies (and I have seen hundreds) you will be struck by the thinness of the wire. After all, the really early flies were on hooks made by needle manufacturers.

Lastly, it should have a straight eye. If you look at these schematics you will understand why I think a straight eye is better:



So for me, the hook that I find the better is the Kamasan B525 (or 410 if you buy it from a fly shop):


As for tying attributes, I have posted these before but here they are again:


Now for some interesting news, Partridge will be releasing their new 'spider' hook at the BFFI this year and it will have a straight eye.

Hope this is informative for you.