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Old 07-07-2010, 10:14 AM
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Will this work or is it just a waste of a good hook?

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Old 07-07-2010, 10:32 AM
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I would happily fish that one mate, often seem to get fish on diawls in the upper few inches during a buzzer hatch so see no reason why that should not work well as an emerging buzzer pattern.

Good tying btw!!!

Do you always use a large lump of foam for the emergers? I am guessing it keeps it well up in the water during a good chop. Do you tie similar with CDC or deer hair?

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I would happily fish that one mate, often seem to get fish on diawls in the upper few inches during a buzzer hatch so see no reason why that should not work well as an emerging buzzer pattern.

Good tying btw!!!

Do you always use a large lump of foam for the emergers? I am guessing it keeps it well up in the water during a good chop. Do you tie similar with CDC or deer hair?

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Good to hear I'm not wasting any hooksCouple of weeks ago i had fish take diawl bachs as soon as they'd hit the water so I've knocked up a couple to try.
It gets abit breezy up here hence the size of the foam and keeps a washing line up longer than cdc or deer.
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keeps a washing line up longer than cdc or deer.
Why not just whack some bloody great booby eyes on it
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Why not just whack some bloody great booby eyes on it
And turn a classic fly into a lure?
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No, a waste of a lump of foam though.... the DB beneath it is a lovely tie. Why suspend it? It's a nymph. Anything naturally in/on the film is either an emerger or an adult.
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Old 07-07-2010, 02:27 PM
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No, a waste of a lump of foam though.... the DB beneath it is a lovely tie. Why suspend it? It's a nymph. Anything naturally in/on the film is either an emerger or an adult.
If trout are willing to take it when it hits the water surely they'll take the same fly suspended?
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If trout are willing to take it when it hits the water surely they'll take the same fly suspended?
Of course they will, they'll (often) take ANYTHING when it his the water. How many times have you had a Cat, or an Invicta Double, or even a goldhead get snaffled as soon as it hits the water? Not dry flies though are they?
Your suspender DB will work just fine, I'm just questioning the point of the exercise. Why not suspend a Cormorant? Or a Cruncher?
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Of course they will, they'll (often) take ANYTHING when it his the water. How many times have you had a Cat, or an Invicta Double, or even a goldhead get snaffled as soon as it hits the water? Not dry flies though are they?
Your suspender DB will work just fine, I'm just questioning the point of the exercise. Why not suspend a Cormorant? Or a Cruncher?
This only seems to happen when i fish diawl bachs everything else is on the drop or on the retrieve.
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This only seems to happen when i fish diawl bachs everything else is on the drop or on the retrieve.
Well, it's my experience, and I'm sure plenty of other folks, to have the most rediculous flies taken off the surface at more or less the moment of impact, in spite of the flies appearence/design, not because of it.
You appear to have valid and laudable reasons for persuing the suspended DB, and that's great... I just feel that if you are going to go to the trouble of suspenderising (to coin a phrase ) something, then it's worth developing the sub-surface part of the fly to immitate something more akin to a hatching buzzer...sedge... whatever.
The DB is by and large a fly to be moved, albeit sometimes very slowly, or even dead drifted. It's basically a nymph sillhouette, but can also excel as a pin fry pattern, corixa, and of course buzzers - at varying stages of the life-cycle. If I could tie Diawls as beautifully as you obviously can, then I certainly wouldn't be wasting them by sticking a lump of foam on top!

If I may be so bold Hootsmun, may I suggest you fish your DB's with the pride they deserve, and without suspenderising them, and use your noggin, and obvious trying talents to develop something equally exquisite beneath the foam... something that will be taken because of its resemblance to a fly in the hatching stage, rather than in spite of it?
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