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Old 27-06-2010, 04:59 PM
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When using Aero Dry Wing for the post on Klinks, do you use a single strand of yarn (composed on multiple fibers) or multiple strands of yarn to create a larger diameter post?

The Aero Dry Wing I have is wound around small cardboard cards (the way it came when I purchased it).

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Old 27-06-2010, 05:00 PM
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All depends on size of fly being tied
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Old 27-06-2010, 06:05 PM
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it can be fiddly but i split it in half by running a dubbing needle slowly thru it do it in small bits at a time dont try splitting to much or it will tangle.
i personally find the strand too thick but some dont, its all down to preference... and trial and error

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Old 27-06-2010, 06:57 PM
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Bryan,
There are many flies tied today which incorrectly determined as being a 'Klinkhamer'. In fact they are simply a parachute emerger.
When Hans Van Klinken developed his 'Klinkhamer Special' it was designed for specific techniques. Therefore compared to most flies people refer to as 'Klinks' they are very large.
I am not sure what you are trying to tie - a 'Klink' or a 'Klinkhamer Special'.
What I am going to tell you is what Hans has done. You take it from there.
The post Hans uses is polypropylene. The Aero Dry Wing is a little thinner but it can work.
He would use the lot (ie the 4 strands wound around the card) and tie it in with the polypropylene sloping back towards the rear. He would then trim it in a tapered style and bind it down.
The reason for this is that the wing is an important design feature of the fly in that the polypropylene aids flotation under the body and the peacock thorax.
Now if you tie them small you can use a single piece in the same way.

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When using Aero Dry Wing for the post on Klinks, do you use a single strand of yarn (composed on multiple fibers) or multiple strands of yarn to create a larger diameter post?

The Aero Dry Wing I have is wound around small cardboard cards (the way it came when I purchased it).

Thank you.

Cheers,

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Old 27-06-2010, 07:31 PM
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Philip,

I'm following the Klinkhamer Special tying instructions provided by Oliver Edwards in his Essential Skills series DVD entitled "Big Dry Flies for Fast Water", which according to Oliver, is as per Hans.

I do know that Hans recommends a polypro material. But, I thought I'd try it with the Aero Dry Wing. Perhaps it is not an ideal use of the Aero Dry Wing, and for the Klinkhamer Special it really is better to use the polypro material.

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Old 27-06-2010, 08:45 PM
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Aero wing is perfect for the job. I also like Funky fibre from WCB.

With regards how much, it is dependent upon the size of fly and the way you tie it in.

The biggest danger with too much is the size of body formed when you tie it in. To eradicate the problem, try the following method:

River Fly Box, tying the parachute emerger, klinkhamer

Just remember, the wing thickness will be double that of the section of aero-wing you select. However, thickness of the the wing is less of an issue now.

Hope it helps
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Old 27-06-2010, 11:52 PM
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Daves method of tying in the wing post is different to Hans v Klinks method but i prefer it.

I have been using Aero wing for some time, and while there may be a small modicum of advantage due to the hollow fibres, i think it is highly overated and priced accordingly! When mine has gone, its off my replacement list!

At around £7 for a pathetic little card of unstated length we are being royally ripped off in MHO! You would expect a quality product for the price they charge, maybe it is, but then why wrap it on a bit of card so that every 2" you get a dog leg kink to have to deal with?!!!! Hey, and you'd still Gink it anyway, so don't buy into it! Save your money and spend it on decent hooks, gorgeous hackles/capes, beer, drugs or even a bunch of flowers for the missus!
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I saw somewhere, might have been on Lakeland's site that there is a new finer version of aero-wing coming out.

It's given it's name Aero-wing as the fibres are hollow, so that is supposed to make it float. Antron yarn is classed as "trilobal" which means basically that it is also hollow & has 3 chambers of air running along its entire length. This is there to give it a shiny appearance & one could argue that it may also enable it to float. It's also miles cheaper than Aero-wing.
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Old 28-06-2010, 01:44 PM
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Arkle,

You are getting confused again ...

"Trilobal" does NOT mean that the fibre has three hollow air chambers - it means that the fibre has three lobes - meaning the cross section is like a three sided star - take a look at the following link, showing a macro shot of a trilobal fibre:

http://virtual.clemson.edu/caah/syne.../ACFigure4.jpg

Trilobal fibres reflect light off the three lobes which makes them ... shiny.

Antron yarn is made from trilobal fibres but it sinks very easily!

Aero Dry Wing DOES have three air chambers so floats a lot longer than antron yarn.

The fine version of Dry Wing has been out for over a year now.

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Old 28-06-2010, 03:13 PM
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Phil,

Do you have a favorite material for posts for Klinks?

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