Kite Hooks

[sonnaghan]

Long time ago was on an elective in Barcelona and got a few flies which I now believe were tied on Kite hooks. NOT too confident about detached body Mayflies and thought that these hooks would be ideal for a Mayfly. Partridge used have them in their catalogue but I dont know if they are still available. Has anyone any ideas about their availability? The code was something like KS2A

[midlander]

Was the hook you saw anything like these?

[sonnaghan]

Midlander thanks v much. That's them I am pretty sure. Have placed a bid. Do you know whether they are still manufactured?

[midlander]

No worries. I'm not certain whether they're still in production but somehow I doubt it. Mustad dropped swathes of hook patterns when they bought out Partridge.

I've got some of the original Yorkshire fly body hooks up in the loft somewhere but can't remember what size, #14 or thereabouts I think. If they're any use to you just PM me your address. I've had them for 25+ years and never used them.

[North Country Angler]

Originally Posted by midlander

I've got some of the original Yorkshire fly body hooks up in the loft somewhere but can't remember what size, #14 or thereabouts I think. If they're any use to you just PM me your address. I've had them for 25+ years and never used them.

Why doesn't that surprise me?! Boy oh boy I would like to to have a rummage around in your loft.....

M

[arkle]

I used to tie on these hooks for their originator Peter Mackenzie-Philps. They were quite popular for a while, but they were not the best hooker's as the rigid body extension would often push the fly away from the trouts mouth if it took it from some directions.

These day's I tie quite a few detached body mayflies & now use the Turrall's latex bodies as they seem to be the only ones left on the market. I used to use the Veniard ones, but these were discontinued some years ago & I can't find any anywhere, They would still be my first choice as they were available in 3 colours & slightly more rigid than the latex ones so they held more air.

The pattern I tie most of uses a grey poly-yarn wing post for this para pattern uses 2 different colours of cdc with a dark grizzle wound through them. I make a trident tail from black nylon paint brush fibres which are a scaled up version of micro-fibbets & seal them into the cut body tip with deercreek's "Croc Glue" To maximize their hooking potential I use a Kamasan b420 sedge hook (or equiv) The first sedge hook I remember was again by Peter M/P, via Partridge & it was his Yorkshire sedge hook.

[ickypimp]

Originally Posted by North Country Angler

Why doesn't that surprise me?! Boy oh boy I would like to to have a rummage around in your loft.....

M

So many jokes....

[midlander]

Originally Posted by ickypimp

So many jokes....

Yeah, I thought it sounded a bit "Carry on" too.

Originally Posted by North Country Angler

Why doesn't that surprise me?! Boy oh boy I would like to to have a rummage around in your loft.....

M

Any time you're in the area mate. Although it's only the really obscure stuff that lives up there.

Originally Posted by arkle

I used to tie on these hooks for their originator Peter Mackenzie-Philps. They were quite popular for a while, but they were not the best hooker's as the rigid body extension would often push the fly away from the trouts mouth if it took it from some directions.

These day's I tie quite a few detached body mayflies & now use the Turrall's latex bodies as they seem to be the only ones left on the market. I used to use the Veniard ones, but these were discontinued some years ago & I can't find any anywhere, They would still be my first choice as they were available in 3 colours & slightly more rigid than the latex ones so they held more air.

The pattern I tie most of uses a grey poly-yarn wing post for this para pattern uses 2 different colours of cdc with a dark grizzle wound through them. I make a trident tail from black nylon paint brush fibres which are a scaled up version of micro-fibbets & seal them into the cut body tip with deercreek's "Croc Glue" To maximize their hooking potential I use a Kamasan b420 sedge hook (or equiv) The first sedge hook I remember was again by Peter M/P, via Partridge & it was his Yorkshire sedge hook.

Spot on John, the first sedge hook was Peters which eventually became the Partridge YK2B although Mustad did a shrimp hook and Partridge did the sedge/grub which became the K4A and was subsequently copied by everyone and is around in the guise of the Hayabusa 384/387 or Kamasan B100/110.

The YK2B or something very close still available from Sprite or alternatively the Hayabusa 371. Grip do a nice barbless hook that's similar, the 14723BL. I still think the Yorkshire/ YK2B was the best of the bunch profile wise though, which is why I've got a few hundred stashed away. The only hook for Bob Carnill's style of pupae or adults.

Here's a scan that'll bring back some memories.