Cobblers Wax

[rabmax]

Hello all does anyone know where i can buy cobblers wax .I have only found a couple of places selling it but they are both out of stock.Cheers

[BRUCE1]

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Cobblers Wax

[North Country Angler]

Get in touch with this forum's Bill Bailey (wsbailey I think). He makes the best I've used by far.

[BRUCE1]

Originally Posted by North Country Angler

Get in touch with this forum's Bill Bailey (wsbailey I think). He makes the best I've used by far.

cheers for that matt , i dont use it that much to be honest i generally stick to pure beeswax albeit some spiders original patterns state cobblers

[midlander]

To my mind many of the proprietary cobblers waxes these days are too heavily reliant on coal tar for their blacking and therefore too blue. To get the deep brown/ black of old waxes you're better to make your own if possible as you can regulate the amount of blacking to suit your purpose. It's pretty easy, although it will render any pan you use unfit for any other purpose.

As well as Bill, Peter Kealey is another member who makes his own.

[maharg]

This one has been a bit of a puzzle to me.
Well wax primrose silk with cobblers wax to produce a translucent olive
The cobblers wax I have is nearly black!!!!
Over to you Alex

[midlander]

Originally Posted by maharg

This one has been a bit of a puzzle to me.
Well wax primrose silk with cobblers wax to produce a translucent olive
The cobblers wax I have is nearly black!!!!
Over to you Alex

Well that's the whole point. As I said above, modern waxes are too blue due to the coal tar derived blacking. Great for pigments in oil paints, carbon paper, printing and indian ink, awful for tying. Cobblers wax should be black but a brown-black not blue-black. The best blacking I've found is derived from paraffin and I had to make that myself. In truth though, if you make a wax mix of dark pine resin and bees wax and heat it at a high temperature you burn the mixture whilst cooking and that gives a pretty deep brown, then just add a pinch of paraffin blacking and your done.

If you fancy trying it, get a camping stove in the yard or garage, a small measuring pan and your ingredients. That way you won't fumigate the house and set the fire alarm off. You might get the police round though after the neighbours report you for cooking crack.

[Highlander]

Peter Kealey is another member who makes his own

Peter kindly sent we a sample of his & good it is too, Very like the old piece I have been using for 40 odd years. Seeing as I will never get to use it unless I reach immortal status you are welcome to have it.
Tight Lines

[rabmax]

Cheers all i have sent Highlander a PM about parting with some wax hopefully it wont be ear wax.

[neil26]

Originally Posted by midlander

Well that's the whole point. As I said above, modern waxes are too blue due to the coal tar derived blacking. Great for pigments in oil paints, carbon paper, printing and indian ink, awful for tying. Cobblers wax should be black but a brown-black not blue-black. The best blacking I've found is derived from paraffin and I had to make that myself. In truth though, if you make a wax mix of dark pine resin and bees wax and heat it at a high temperature you burn the mixture whilst cooking and that gives a pretty deep brown, then just add a pinch of paraffin blacking and your done.

If you fancy trying it, get a camping stove in the yard or garage, a small measuring pan and your ingredients. That way you won't fumigate the house and set the fire alarm off. You might get the police round though after the neighbours report you for cooking crack.

fancy having a go at that- is the pine resin just sap from the pine trees?- i can get that, and boil with beeswax? what is paraffin blacking? do i just heat up to melt or do you see a colour change with heating?
thanks