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Old 21-02-2010, 10:33 AM
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Default The Classics: Orange partridge.

Ah, the orange partridge! Probably the most famous of all the north country exports. I certainly hold it dear as it brought me my first ever river trout.....and has extricated me from many a tight corner since.
Controversy surrounds the correct colour of silk to use: the pattern is commonly dressed with #19 hot orange these days - which tends to upset the traditionalists who insist on #6a/b. I've tied on the latter for this thread although I have to admit to harbouring a soft spot for the hot orange which turns a lovely dark mahoghany colour when waxed or wet (a cracking match for my local bwo spinners).

Male grey partridge is a lovely feather to tie with - I fully recommend getting a full skin (Steve Cooper will sort you with a top quality one for around 20 notes). The feathers you need are from the back of the bird's neck, down towards the shoulder blades for larger sizes. I've followed with a few other partridge based patterns which have done well for me in the past. Hope you like them and have some versions of your own to show......


Orange Partridge
Hook: Mustad R50 #14,16
Silk: Pearsalls orange #6a
Hackle: Well marked neck feather from male grey partridge

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Yellow Partridge
As above only using yellow silk. A useful pattern in smaller sizes when the pale wateries/spurwings and small yellow stoneflies are on the wing.

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Grannom
As above only using olive silk and a light dubbing of short staple hare mask over the upper two thirds of the body.
This is my version of the old 'Green Tail' spider. I don't put too much stock in a bright green 'egg ball' tag personally. The female grannom around these parts show a very dark green egg ball which isn't too distinguishable from the abdomen colour. It certainly isn't fluorescent green! The olive silk when wet isn't quite right...but it's close enough. Fishes well paired with a pupa pattern during the early stages of the hatch.

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No Name nymph variant
As yellow partridge, but with a thorax of finely dubbed hare mask over red holo tinsel.
This is basically a spidered version of a copper head nymph I use. It isn't intended to imitate anything, but the extra touch of flash from the red holo makes it surprisingly successful - especially when fished through brisk water at the pool heads.

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As Midlander rightly pointed out recently, there aren't many variants possible with trad spider patterns, so I don't expect too much input from other tyers here.....but hey, this is the classics thread and orange partridge is an undisputed classic, so we can't leave it out now can we?!

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The top image is nice, one point though, there seems to be about 16 fibres in the hackle, I prefer 13....
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Thanks for starting this thread Matt, this fly is one of my all time favourite flies...

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I tie it with the hotter orange and run the thread back up the body as a rib, not tradtionally correct but it works for me.
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Very nice as always Matt.
I seem to remember Dick Walker tying this pattern very short on a big heavy hooks to take large rainbows. The big hook to hold them but tied short.The fish seemed to ignore the rest of the meat hook hanging out the back
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Sadly, .D. no longer seems to post here - I hope he doesn't mind my lifting one of his Partridge & Orange variants with a hare dub thorax and gold wire rib for this 'Classic' thread.

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I'm quite taken with the Varivas 2120 Wave Barbless at the moment:

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Unlike the grey partridge breast hackles shown he uses the brown speckled back hackle which some regard as more traditional, certainly in north Wales.



Pearsall's 6A is also the more traditional, I think.
Plenty of discussion on this subject elsewhere on the Forum so let's not reopen it. 6B best kept for dark bronze finished hooks.
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That's a nice tying! I would say that the hackle looks like it is taken from a hen bird being a bit darker in colouration - a dead nice feather for march brown imitations.
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Great tyings i just love the simplicity of these flies started tying a few up for the new season just cant wait to try them on the rivers,thats if we ever get rid of this snow another 4inch last night.
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Top effort Matt.

i had thought that brown was the feather colour but i guess there are variations - same for gold rib , or maybe thats a Yorkshire thing?

The river I mainly fish is difficult to fish with a 10ft rod and traditional spider set up, so this year i have tied some olive based patterns on dry fly hooks and will fish them as dries/"damps" ......mainly Snipe and Yellow and Hares Lug and Plover. I reckon they will sit in the film and do well on a smaller rod (8.5ft) dry fly set up......hope so anyway.
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