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Old 27-01-2010, 04:36 PM
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Default Soft Wing - Spiders

These flies are designed for upstream dead drift use, and are reckoned by those that have used them to be more effective than standard spider dressings except for faster water where stewarts style is often as effective if not more effective.

The hackle for the bunch wing is soft game hackle, the most effective being Waterhen Coverts and Partridge Hackles.


Soft Wing - March Brown

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Yellow silk, lightly dubbed with a hares ear mixture which looks tan, but mix light medium and dark hair to achieve this. Fine copper wire rib, ( use lacquered wire for this, or it turns green quickly when wetted). Tie in a sparse bunch wing of brown partridge fibres from a brown coloured brown partridge hackle. Dub some darker hare fur on the thread, wind around the hook at the back and front of the wing. finish the fly and velcro the dubbing at the sides and below.

Soft Wing - Greenwells

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Dress a "greenwell", with waxed yellow silk ( turns to olive),and fine gold wire rib but dont put any hackle on it. Tie in your sparse bunch wing of waterhen fibres, ( or you can o this first if you want before you make the body).You can use any of the dark blue/brown fibres but they should be soft fibres, not stiff fibres from the wing feathers. I don't split it. Just an upright bunch. Now dub a little bit of dark hare's ear on your thread. Wind this around the hook at the base of the wing, a little in front and a little behind, so that is basically looks like a small lump at the wing base. Finish the fly, and then scrub the dubbing below and at the sides of the hook for legs.

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Hares Lug and Plover - Softwing

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these look very tasty if you need someone to try them out im your man
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lovely looking flies mate. i'll try and copy them at some stage i think

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Very nice otter, just the thing for the Clyde.
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Just the ticket Otter.
A wee dash of cdc on the top and they would fit in my box a treat.
Infact they are the sort of fly that could make a man go wet!
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Old 28-01-2010, 09:34 AM
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Just the ticket Otter.
A wee dash of cdc on the top and they would fit in my box a treat.
Infact they are the sort of fly that could make a man go wet!
Don't think wet Buzz, think damp

If they are half as good as they look or even 20% as good as I have been told they are - then I will be more than happy.

If you are going to tie some of these don't go on a softwing fantasy fly tying trip - stick to the profiles as shown, and stick to the recommended materials.
Vary wing density to suit the natruals you are imitating. These are designed to be imitative, though the march brown version does work as a general pattern.

These are not simply another style, the greenwells and march brown are optimum ties - and I see no point playing around at the vice trying to better what is the result of 40 years of someone else developing these from his investigations and rigorous testing of all the various schools of tying wets and spiders.

If you tie one of the greenwells as shown, I bet a fiver you will look at the finished fly and go WOW.
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Hi Otter, nice looking flies, but then Spiders always are!

I'm a bit lost here , can you explain the rationale of using them instead of "full hackled" Spiders , or just usung a CDC wing instead.

I may be missing the point ?

If so , sorry !
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Hi Otter, nice looking flies, but then Spiders always are!

I'm a bit lost here , can you explain the rationale of using them instead of "full hackled" Spiders , or just usung a CDC wing instead.

I may be missing the point ?

If so , sorry !
I aint got a rationale yet as they are not my design and I have yet to fish them.

They are the work of a tier that has fished spiders and wets for 40+ years and has concluded that this style is way more effective in general for upstream work than standard umbrella types . I have my own ideas why they may work better, but until I fish them .......
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