Hi all, Sage ,Dee is a raging torrent at the moment, so there's time to tie flies and take the dog for a walk etc... Spider, yes they do break out of the shuck like this, the wings become quite splayed for a short period, possibly to dry them off, been watching them in a tank, for reasons unknown it works better than the F fly and shuttlecock on occassions, which vid have you got?, Highlander I hope you get to heaven, despite Otters view,I did not take the pics

someone mailed them to me, but I will take some of interesting patterns and methods over the winter to share with you Scotfly, and thanks Tango for detailing the materials, I also use mouse instead of mole, catch them in a trap, then its a haircut job before I feed them to the Owl