Thanks chaps 
They are primarily tied for river use but I can't see why they wouldn't work in stillwaters.
These are approx three inches long and the zonker is 1/8" wide, I'm going to try some with the magnum strips that are 1/4" and tie them larger probably for pike or bigger trout! 
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