superfine and slf masterclass cube?

[dun09]

does anyone know what material the dubbing in a masterclass cube is ?
i know its synthetic but what synthetic and the same goes for superfine?

views appreciated

tight lines

JAY

[spidersplus]

Jay,

I think that that actual chemical composition of both is a closely guarded secret that Wapsi Fly Inc. will not give up.

If you really need to know, then maybe track down a laboratory to analyse the material for you.

Superfine is permanently waterproofed, 1.2 denier, 1.5" staple. The masterclass cube contains blends of SLF Finesse, the finer version of the standard SLF material, originally developed in Wales as an alternative to Seal's Fur.

Kind regards

[noeyedeer]

Originally Posted by spidersplus

I think that that actual chemical composition of both is a closely guarded secret that Wapsi Fly Inc. will not give up.

If you really need to know, then maybe track down a laboratory to analyse the material for you.

Indeed it would be no problem for a competent lab to get the fibre ID for this through a series of simple tests. (I've got them listed in my old university books in the loft, and somewhere in my brain, but don't ask me to remember them! - why is it important tho, you looking for a cheaper subs by any chance Jay?)

Originally Posted by spidersplus

Superfine is permanently waterproofed, 1.2 denier, 1.5" staple. The masterclass cube contains blends of SLF Finesse, the finer version of the standard SLF material, originally developed in Wales as an alternative to Seal's Fur.

Just to note I looked at these last month after seeing Paul Procter using the superfine. I went for the superfine pack #1. glad I did after seeing the Masterclass cube in my local tackle shop - its tiny, really small. don't know the relative weights, but I reckon yo could buy both superfine colour packs (#1 & #2), have some spare change and end up with double the dubbing. I have found the superfine to be exactly what it says on the tin - you can go down to v small hook sizes no problem with this. for larger flies I'm using Seals Fur. (Got mine in the 1970's before SLF was about).

[arkle]

Phil, I think you'll find tha Davy Wooton the "inventor" based it on a fibre that he got from the Sue Burgess company.

This material was available in about 5 colours & was very brassy in texture although the fibres were virtually straight. I have them amongst my dubbing collection. When re-worked, they may well have been the foundation blocks from which S.L.F. was formed. I'm afraid I don't have the original packets so the name is lost.

Davy is now a guide on the White River over in the U.S.

[dun09]

Thanks for the replys much appreciated, and yes i was wondering if i could source these for cheaper. the amount you get in the masterclass cubes
its a joke to say the least! i got one for £13 good price not bad dubbing
but never again.
I thought the cube was atleast double the size!, i couldnt stop laughing when it arrived, its like a sampler of each colour.

[hiyabarney]

Hi guys I thought Nigel? at Lakeland was selling the colours as a refil, these are bigger to.
SLF Master Class Dubbing Packs - Lakeland Fly-Tying Limited
Hope this helps.
Martin...