spiders?

[horses50]

Just started tying my first ever spiders ready for next season.I have a couple of questions,tying the partridge and orange in 14s and 16s, 18s i will buy lol i am useing english grey NECK feathers is this correct? it also said to wax with cobblers wax as i aint got none will bees wax do? Also why wax the thread? thank you.

[paulfish_1]

Originally Posted by horses50

Just started tying my first ever spiders ready for next season.I have a couple of questions,tying the partridge and orange in 14s and 16s, 18s i will buy lol i am useing english grey NECK feathers is this correct? it also said to wax with cobblers wax as i aint got none will bees wax do? Also why wax the thread? thank you.

Hi mate. You should contact phil from spidersplus on here. He is like the Yoda of spiders! lol
He was very helpful with me when i had loads of spider questions. He can also supply materials.

Good luck with the ties.

Tight lines.
Paul

[Stillwater angler]

Originally Posted by horses50

Just started tying my first ever spiders ready for next season.I have a couple of questions,tying the partridge and orange in 14s and 16s, 18s i will buy lol i am useing english grey NECK feathers is this correct? it also said to wax with cobblers wax as i aint got none will bees wax do? Also why wax the thread? thank you.

Hi mate,

English grey will do fine, i use a fluro-orange neon thread for mine, and for peaty water there the dog's noodles, oh and i don't wax either.

[North Country Angler]

Originally Posted by Stillwater angler

Hi mate,

English grey will do fine, i use a fluro-orange neon thread for mine, and for peaty water there the dog's noodles, oh and i don't wax either.

Fluoro orange neon?! Sacrilege!

You are on the money with the partridge neck feathers. You'll probably need to buy a skin to get the nice little spoon shaped ones that you need. The loose packet stuff just won't cut the mustard....oh and your bird preferably needs to be a cock rather than a hen. Steve at Cookshill is as good a supplier as I know.

I agree with Fred on the wax - not necessary in my humble opinion.

M

[BRUCE1]

Originally Posted by Stillwater angler

Hi mate,

English grey will do fine, i use a fluro-orange neon thread for mine, and for peaty water there the dog's noodles, oh and i don't wax either.

WWWWHHHHAAAAATTTTTTTT ,you mean you dont use pearsalls hot orange or normal im shocked


but for peaty water your right you cant beat orange .......

[maharg]

Cobblers wax is a dark wax and it serves a few purposes;
To darken thread, such as in a greenwells glory to produce an olive shade,
To help with dubbing fur,
and to a lesser extent, to protect the real silk from rotting!

Bees wax covers points 2 and 3

[jonnied17-2008]

Ilike wax on my spiders, but I wipe any excess off. Also I prefer brown back hackles (english partridge) if I can. I don't use pearsals, but I do use a flat orvis in a nice rusty orange colour.

wax just makes it stick a little... you do the logic.

[Stillwater angler]

Originally Posted by barbusbruce

WWWWHHHHAAAAATTTTTTTT ,you mean you dont use pearsalls hot orange or normal im shocked


but for peaty water your right you cant beat orange .......

one may have the odd trad. lurking somewhere ...

ps................. waters good today Bruce