Fantastic replies Guys thanks for all the links and help.
That's an interesting point though, Chris Helms flies are picture perfect, nearly too aesthetic? (I understand the rough and ready but mines a bit too rough, I would like to achieve a bit more consistancy

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Could it be more a fact of the type of water you are fishing?? Would that determine the build of the head??? I'm thinking roughish water on the loughs.
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Originally Posted by savage take
nice tying peter. have to agree with the cap,n here. rough and ready.

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Very tasty Andrew, loved your peach muddler.