Messinger Frog Deer Hair Work

[FlySlinger]

Hi Fellows This is a messinger Frog I tied this a while back this is a very difficult this Fly was developed by the messinger Family......It is not spun or Stacked it is done in the messenger style But it is indeed Hair work I hope you like it.......and it is on a hook......LOL

I will answer questions later this afternoon I have to go to the doctor today

[shpeil]

Wow! Does it catch fish where you are?!

[FlySlinger]

Hi I just came from the Gym and it Sure is a fish Catcher it has kicking legs the legs are spring loaded and they kick when you pull it threw the water.....The legs are Buck Tail and they are designed while tying to do this I caught a 16 inch smallmo0uth the otherday with one of these........I am going to the Docs and I won't be home till4pm USA TIme I will answer your questions when I get back.......IF Iam a litle late please Excuse me

[FlySlinger]

If any of you fellows have Any questions I am here to answer

[jonnied17-2008]

wow! firstly congrats on a great pattern you are definately very talented!

secondly, how the hell do you get so much hair onto that pattern? When I tie large deer hair patterns I find that I struggle to get the hair well compacted, maybe im just being a bit reserved with it. Is it a bit of a battle tying these boys up?

[FlySlinger]

Hi Sunny my name is Frank Zervos or you can call me FlySlinger If you like......The hair work on this frog This messinger frog is not spun or stacked it is done in the messinger tradition Invented by Joe Messinger Senior.....It is Square knoted on the hook shanck to do this frog in any other way is conterfit.......Although if you really no the techniques you cAN GET HAIR JUST as dense with other methods......The leg are Very difficult also they take a lot of practice and Cordination.....The Legs are not made from Deer Hair they are made from Buck tail and you have to have a specially Chosen bucktail befor this will work.....If you don't have the right buckTail....you can TRY TO FORM the legs till the cows come home....and they won't form Yes joe messinger SR the person that inveted this procedure now deceased invented these methods from scratch I believe he was a Genus What is the amount that i can scribe without runing out of room I will stop right there and see if there are any other questions if your are not bored I have other Frogs to show if you wan't at another time

[jonnied17-2008]

so how is this messinger style done? sounds like this guy knew his stuff for sure. Ive only ever spun deer hair, and Im not great at that!

[FlySlinger]

It has to be shown on Tape or some way I can't tell you in the writen hand... you have to understand over and over again......I can giv you Joe JR. Email and you caN order a DVD if you like......jmessinger@hotmail.com Tell him Frank Zervos Adviced you to get a tape on how to do the frog and I am sure he will fix you up........Thats how I learnt about twenty years ago

[guest21]

Originally Posted by FlySlinger

..... and you caN order a DVD if you like......jmessinger@hotmail.com

Now there's a surprise!

[FlySlinger]

Believe it or not this a very technical Fly it has new Techniques and either you need personal instruction or a learning aid.....and since I can't be in the UK there is no other way......This is one Fly you'll have to want badly to conqour it