fly tying kits

[scooter]

hi just had try at tyinglast nite done couple lures dial bach an buzzers enjoy it wanna start to tie myself any help on what starter kit to buy an how much to spend ty

[Jackwow]

I think you'll find numerous threads here on the subject of fly tying kits and the majority opinion is don't buy a kit but instead decide what flies you want to tie and then buy the specific materials you need for these flies, thus avoiding the purchase of materials that you may never use. That would also be my opinion.

[scooter]

hi il proberly be buzzers dial bach lures an might try wets tryed a mate kit last night 1 time an did better than i thought that why i thought kit be good

[Jackwow]

A kit is just an assortment of materials, or materials and tools, and won't help you tie flies any better. The problem is the kit will usually contain small amounts of many materials rather than good quantities of the materials that you need to tie the flies you want to fish.

So pick a few flies that you most want to fish, get the patterns and then buy the materials you need for these patterns. Some materials will probably be common to more than one of your flies and you will find later that to tie another pattern you may only need to purchase one or two new materials and as time goes by you will build a collection of materials that you will use.

Listen to jackwow He's making sense. Bet no one comes on here praising kits whether it be materials... or tools.

[Highlander]

Bet no one comes on here praising kits whether it be materials.

Spoke too soon

Nothing wrong with a kit. Many tyers that have started out with kits, have gone on to become good tyers. At the same time many have tried & gave up. So what did they lose £20-£40. Not a fortune is it. Stick it on E Bay & get your money back.
Forget the pitfalls of kits, cheaper tools & materials? still usable.
You guys have to remember people that are starting out have no idea what to buy & more important what not to buy. All very well you saying they can get advice here but if they have no idea what you are talking about what is the point. At least with a kit you get enough materials to tie a few flies, an instructional booklet & in the more expensive one maybe a beginners DVD.
I have to laugh at some of you guys slagging of kits. You go on about "all the materials" that are left that one "might not use" & in the same breath ask questions about buying Jungle Cock & Whiting capes at considerably more than the cost of a starter kit. So my advice get a kit, get started & when you get a few flies under your belt & get to know some of the terminology then come back here & ask questions.......nuff said
Tight Lines

[scooter]

Originally Posted by Highlander

Nothing wrong with a kit. Many tyers that have started out with kits, have gone on to become good tyers. At the same time many have tried & gave up. So what did they lose £20-£40. Not a fortune is it. Stick it on E Bay & get your money back.
Forget the pitfalls of kits, cheaper tools & materials? still usable.
You guys have to remember people that are starting out have no idea what to buy & more important what not to buy. All very well you saying they can get advice here but if they have no idea what you are talking about what is the point. At least with a kit you get enough materials to tie a few flies, an instructional booklet & in the more expensive one maybe a beginners DVD.
I have to laugh at some of you guys slagging of kits. You go on about "all the materials" that are left that one "might not use" & in the same breath ask questions about buying Jungle Cock & Whiting capes at considerably more than the cost of a starter kit. So my advice get a kit, get started & when you get a few flies under your belt & get to know some of the terminology then come back here & ask questions.......nuff said
Tight Lines

thank guys for ur advice but i think highlander is making more sence to me in buying a kit as i dont have a clue what to but seperately an if i spend 20 -40 pounds rather in me spending proberly more buying things on there own no dont its a deabte that can go on forever with many diff veiws from ppl an in fact the kit i had shoot of cost my mate 40 pounds that i tyed couple of fly with i went out the nite an got couple of offers then caught 1 ona red an yellow lure so i was well chuffed

Originally Posted by Highlander

Nothing wrong with a kit. Many tyers that have started out with kits, have gone on to become good tyers. At the same time many have tried & gave up. So what did they lose £20-£40. Not a fortune is it. Stick it on E Bay & get your money back.
Forget the pitfalls of kits, cheaper tools & materials? still usable.
You guys have to remember people that are starting out have no idea what to buy & more important what not to buy. All very well you saying they can get advice here but if they have no idea what you are talking about what is the point. At least with a kit you get enough materials to tie a few flies, an instructional booklet & in the more expensive one maybe a beginners DVD.
I have to laugh at some of you guys slagging of kits. You go on about "all the materials" that are left that one "might not use" & in the same breath ask questions about buying Jungle Cock & Whiting capes at considerably more than the cost of a starter kit. So my advice get a kit, get started & when you get a few flies under your belt & get to know some of the terminology then come back here & ask questions.......nuff said
Tight Lines

Sorry but I was taking in your views until the rubbish about same breath, whiting capes and jungle cock. How clear the world must be through your polarised vision!
As a matter of fact I started with a kit and a book with twenty patterns that you could make, So I'm talking from that experience base. And I also know that my first frustrating efforts with hackles twisting and wings where not to do with my inability but the rubbish in the kit which almost put me off for life.
The chaps talking about buzzers and wet flies. He is better dealing with recipes he finds here or in fly magazines and getting the stuff as he develops. He is on a forum where he can get advice about what to buy and what use.

[steve collyer]

What you want to do is definitely not buy a kit.
Instead get yourself some original Chadwicks darning wool - shade no.477 to be precise - some copper wire & some size 10 & 12 hooks.
The killer bug is very easy to tie and also catches fish. With so few ingredients you'll soon work out if this tying malarky is for you or not.

Originally Posted by steve collyer

What you want to do is definitely not buy a kit.
Instead get yourself some original Chadwicks darning wool - shade no.477 to be precise - some copper wire & some size 10 & 12 hooks.
The killer bug is very easy to tie and also catches fish. With so few ingredients you'll soon work out if this tying malarky is for you or not.

Steve maybe you have a liitle chadwicks no477 knocking around you could send him. I'm sure he would be thrilled.