i think we will go for this for now ,and i hope to see many of the great tiers on here add their thoughts and advice on patterns / methods / materials to help the newer members who are trying out fly tying for the first time or have only been tying for a year or so like myself and are still having problems with certain methods , like pinch n loop which drives me mad as i always tend to pull the wing down over one side slightly

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anyway lets get started with a fly to start people off ,by making tonight a vote night on the first fly to be tied ,and tomorrow a night of actual tying and discussion about methods used and origin of the said fly with also any variations of said fly welcome to be shown after the original pattern .
so what do you guys think of this to start us off and I'm up for any type of fly ( Just hope i have the materials at hand ) and for my vote i think i will go with a simple pattern to start off with like the very effective G,R,H,E ,,,,, so lets hear your own thoughts on what fly u would like to tie first ,and remember to spend a little time researching the fly as i will be so as i can add any interesting information i find on it .
i look forward to your thoughts and more than anything all those fantastic flies.