Chadwicks 477

[morpheus171991]

i just saw a video on youtube of mr McPhail tying frank sawyers killler bug. does anyone know where i can get the 477 wool. i know its supposed to be rare. but i am not sure.
Thanks
Tom(Morpheus)

[steve collyer]

Don't bother - save yourself a few hundred quid & use Veniards killer bug yarn instead.
Once you've put the copper wire underbody on & one neat layer of the Veniards yarn over, you get exactly the same effect once wet.

The only way I'd buy any was if I could get hold of a full card for less than £100. Then I'd sell it unused in 10 year's time for maybe double or triple that.

[spidersplus]

Tom,

What makes you think that you are not sure?

You are right to think that it is rare - Chadwicks stopped making wool about 35 years ago when the factory burned down.

Cards of genuine 477 sell for £40/50/60 upwards at auctions - but there are various substitutes available that are close to the original.

The 477 changes colour when wet - takes on a pinkish hue which the subs do not do ... but I don't think it matters to the fish.

The sub wool sold by Veniard is a close match to the genuine 477 - or splash out on the real stuff if you ever see it available.

(Oops - sorry - typed this at the same time that Steve posted his reply)

Kind regards

[steve collyer]

Originally Posted by spidersplus

...The 477 changes colour when wet - takes on a pinkish hue which the subs do not do ...

Actually the Veniard's killer bug yarn does turn a slight pinkish shade in the water.
I think it has to do with a very slight translucency with the copper underbody when you use a single layer of yarn over.

[Mrtrout]

Hi Tom, yes it's pretty rare, it does come up occasionally on ebay, and fetches ridiculous prices.
I recently found a box of sewing related materials in a local charity shop, and amongst it was seven full cards of the original Chadwicks wool, unfortunately none of them were 477.
I bought them all for 50p each, as they were nice suttle colours, and may come in handy.
I also told the lady in the shop to keep her eyes peeled for a card of 477, and said I would make a hefty donation to the charity if she found one.
I did hear that every demob suit had a card of 477 in the top pocket, for darning purposes, so ask around, must be some somewhere.