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Old 14-09-2009, 11:36 AM
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Default Treacle parkin...

Any of you the correct dressing... the recipe i have is

ginger hen hackle , peacock herl body and a yellow tag... i have searched all my books and cannot find it, internet seaches arent terribly productive

did well on it for grayling last nite...
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Old 14-09-2009, 11:44 AM
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Martin,
The dressing you stated is correct. I use 8 strands of floss silk for the tag as I think it is a better attractor. I also place 2 turns of gold lurex under the tag around the bend. My signature for the 'Red tag'.
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Think 'red-tag' but with an orange/yellow tag.

Image from Moc Morgan's 'Flies of Wales'.

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Icky

I've used the Treacle Parkin to good effect on the Dove and Derwent in the past. I tie it as suggested above but with a glowbrite orange floss tail / tag. I also often tie some with a black hackle instead of the ginger one.

I believe its a north country fly so to get a definitive version you might need to look up north. Having said that, if its catching, why change it.

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Icky, that sounds like the Parkins I'm used to from years gone by in N Yorkshhire.
As I remember, the hearl was tied quite fat and the hackle quite short ... but I'm expecting to be corrected on that
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Old 16-09-2009, 07:05 PM
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Icky, that sounds like the Parkins I'm used to from years gone by in N Yorkshhire.
As I remember, the hearl was tied quite fat and the hackle quite short ... but I'm expecting to be corrected on that
No that sounds like they are tied up here... red tag, treacles and john storey are very pop up here for the Grayling especially the John Storey.

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I believe the correct hackle is a dark red cock, for the John Storey too (John Storey was a riverkeeper at Ryedales).
Ex Scarborough town clerk Eric Horsfall Turner is credited as having popularized both paterns in Wales.
They are also reported to be good Derbyshire September trout flies, by R.V.Righyni, along with the 'Grayling Steel Blue' - a dressing I unfortunately don't have.
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Old 16-09-2009, 08:18 PM
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The whole range of these flies which have very little variation are tied with a dark red hackle . Another the Erics beetle is pretty much a treacle parkin but fished damp .

The streams and becks I fish were those that were fished by Eric horsfall Turner and also John Storey ... The patterns work just as well now as they did for those guys I guess. Especially the John Storey which is still one of my standard go to patterns.
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thanks for the information... i have to admit my own efforts look a little diffrent to the one in the picture, little more sparse on the dressing , i have been fishing them as i would a spider (though having read recent posts on here i dont fish them "properly"), like a crippled emerger, upstream in in the surface film..
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Good fly, the parkin. Much under-rated and a little out of fashion.
Your dressing sounds spot on to me Icky - tied on the sparse side

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