Makeshift tube fly attachements

[Chris the Fish]

Can anyone recommend a quick and simple way of attaching a tube fly to a vice without forking out for a tube fly head?

I have a few from the FFFT/Essential fly comp and would like to tie them up, however only having 4 tubes means that i dont really want to fork out for a head just for a few tubes.

Also, which way round do you tie them? (one end has a lip, the other has a narrower diameter section)

Hope you can help,

Cheers Chris

[arkle]

Darning needles

[yellow owl]

a large hook wih the eye off or felt needles

[Chris the Fish]

Originally Posted by arkle

Darning needles

Do you just ram it in and then clamp it up?

The needle that is

[3lbgrayling]

The lip is the head of the tube.

Jim

[arkle]

Virtually yes, set it at a very slight upward slant though - say about 5 degrees. With the needle eye set flat between the jaws.

[Stuart_B]

I've tried needles and the wire "mandrels" in those Vice Adaptors you can buy ( made by HMH and Lureflash etc). The HMH one is OK if the tube is brass,copper or metal and you can clamp the end in it but otherwise I have found none of the needles stop the tube spinning . I saw one suggestion on the Salmon Forums to buy a Pin Vice on Ebay and utilise that in some fashion but as a "one off" event it 's hardly worth doing .

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Originally Posted by Chris the Fish

Can anyone recommend a quick and simple way of attaching a tube fly to a vice without forking out for a tube fly head?

I have a few from the FFFT/Essential fly comp and would like to tie them up, however only having 4 tubes means that i dont really want to fork out for a head just for a few tubes.

Also, which way round do you tie them? (one end has a lip, the other has a narrower diameter section)

Hope you can help,

Cheers Chris

Not sure what make of tube they have supplied but anyway the end with the lip is the front of the fly .Some ready made plastic tubes like Slipstream have a narrower innersection fitted partway to thread the line through with the other end accepting the hook.
Are they plastic tubes or metal? Sounds a bit like a Turral bottle tube ?

[Chris the Fish]

its a metal tube, like this

http://www.theessentialfly.com/tubin...fly-tying.html

they mention tubing, does this fit onto the thinner section to the rear?

[The Dog]

Use a paperclip pushed into your tube, and then clamp it in the jaws of the vice. Easy. Job done.

[Stuart_B]

Originally Posted by Chris the Fish

its a metal tube, like this

http://www.theessentialfly.com/tubin...fly-tying.html

they mention tubing, does this fit onto the thinner section to the rear?

Yeah.That's to hold the hook . I can't see any liner in those tubes to cushion the leader line from the metal .This goes through the metal tube and a short section left protruding and heated with a lighter so it mushrooms aginst the metal of the tube . Does your tube have this or was it supplied seperately .
This will give you an idea of what I mean if it's all Greek to you ..around 4 min 30 secs in

YouTube - Eumer Conehead Tube Part 2 HD 0001

YouTube - Eumer Conehead Tube Part 2 HD 0001