picric acid.

[jemo]

How do you fix feathers dyed in picric, i find that the shade changes over time and use....J

[midlander]

Originally Posted by dabhoy

I have used picric acid on many materials and while some of those can be achieved by dyes I have yet to find a dye that can replicate the olive that it can achieve on blue jay.
I have only bought and used the stuff in aqueous form and alwas wear gloves when using it but I do that with all dyes.
I know in crystal form that it can possibly be dangerous but I do find there is also a fair bit of scaremongering at the mear mention of the stuff.

You mean something like this Kev?...

[stormfry]

Originally Posted by harveyangling

Yo really do need to be cautious, I doubt you will obtain it in a crystal form, I doubt it would even be transportable. Look up picric acid on you tube.

If you can obtain it, ensure it is totally saturated in water.



That's a little misleading, if i advertise something as picric, it has been dyed with picric.

You mean like this !!!

[stormfry]

Originally Posted by jemo

How do you fix feathers dyed in picric, i find that the shade changes over time and use....J

Because it's strength wains the more you put in to it.Also if there is a difference in the base shade it will come out a different colour even slightly.

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Originally Posted by midlander

You mean something like this Kev?...

I LOVE THIS AND USE IT ON SOME GOLDEN OLIVE BUMBLES. VERY NICE MATE

[dabhoy]

Originally Posted by midlander

You mean something like this Kev?...

Well thats a first as I have only seen it being done with picric.
This is of course if that is dyed but I know your a bit of a demon when it comes down dyeing Alex
So where can i get my hands on a jay like that in the intrest of comparing the difference in daylight

[lepirate]

Thanks all,
warnings duly taken on board, did, briefly, consider making own but bits of the process.. ie ..fizzing.. and ..toxic gas.. and girlfriend saying.. NO!. put me off. Aqueous solution is what i would like to get and serious safety precautions would be followed. Some rather wonderful colours there gentlemen. :

[lepirate]

Originally Posted by dabhoy

Well thats a first as I have only seen it being done with picric.
This is of course if that is dyed but I know your a bit of a demon when it comes down dyeing Alex
So where can i get my hands on a jay like that in the intrest of comparing the difference in daylight

Hi,
jay wings dyed picric, spanflex1 on eday, other nice stuff too,
hope that helps.

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Originally Posted by dabhoy

Well thats a first as I have only seen it being done with picric.
This is of course if that is dyed but I know your a bit of a demon when it comes down dyeing Alex
So where can i get my hands on a jay like that in the intrest of comparing the difference in daylight

Hi,
jay wings dyed picric, spanflex1 on ebay, other nice stuff too,
hope that helps.

[denzil3009]

Is this stuff only dangerous in the dying stage ?

[harveyangling]

we have some here, fresh out of the dye:

Picric Jay Wings

Listed them today on the forum

[midlander]

Originally Posted by dabhoy

Well thats a first as I have only seen it being done with picric.
This is of course if that is dyed but I know your a bit of a demon when it comes down dyeing Alex
So where can i get my hands on a jay like that in the intrest of comparing the difference in daylight

Quite right Kev, I was just posting it to illustrate that you can get perfectly good olive shades without using picric. Same goes for any blue-grey material such as mole or squirrel. Here's a spot of French Partridge..

It's simple enough to do mate, just Jacquard Yellow Sun with a tiny bit of Chartreuse although I've been told Veniards fluo yellow is worth a go on some materials too.

Are you after sending me some feathers down then Kev? In the interests of scientific comparison.