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Old 09-05-2008, 10:06 PM
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PiB,

Sort of - I use rusty brown Uni-Thread and a thorax of hare's fur. Call it what you like.

I call Perdix perdix a Grey Partridge. So do most bird books as far as I can tell ( not that I'm an ornithologist). Call it what you like .


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Old 09-05-2008, 10:14 PM
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I do hope we're not going to have one of those dull debates about the "correct" shade of orange for an Orange Partridge!






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Old 09-05-2008, 10:23 PM
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Wink Perdix perdix

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PiB,

Sort of - I use rusty brown Uni-Thread and a thorax of hare's fur. Call it what you like.

I call Perdix perdix a Grey Partridge. So do most bird books as far as I can tell ( not that I'm an ornithologist). Call it what you like .


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I like the dressing, & the thorax.

'Perdix perdix' is the English Partridge.
The introduced French, or Red Partridge is the gamebird raised on many commercial shoots.

http://www.flyforums.co.uk/showthrea...alls#post64821

Pearsalls Naples 6A thread is deemed the definitive thread for this pattern.
6B if a darker bronze hook.


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Old 09-05-2008, 10:38 PM
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I like the dressing, & the thorax.

'Perdix perdix' is the English Partridge.
The introduced French, or Red Partridge is the gamebird raised on many commercial shoots.

http://www.flyforums.co.uk/showthrea...alls#post64821

Pearsalls Naples 6A thread is deemed the definitive thread for this pattern.
6B if a darker bronze hook.


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Thankyou ( it seems to work OK).


Perdix perdix is the Grey Partridge. Also known (primarily by people from England, I would imagine) as the English Partridge. I think in the US they call it the Hungarian Partridge - though I've never been entirely sure, or sure why.

"Pearsalls Naples 6A thread is deemed the definitive thread for this pattern".

I never claimed it was the same fly . I think it's deemed the definitive thread if you take the dressing from Edmonds and Lee.

I've never really understood why some people get so rabid about the precise shade of silk - given that the very same people show far less conviction when it comes to explaining exactly what the fly imitates. When the silk darkens to exactly the right shade on wetting.


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P.S. the Red-legged or French Partridge has really nice olive tinged dun hackles for spiders too, I use them on my authentic Red-legged Partridge Bloas, just like the ancients.

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Old 09-05-2008, 11:06 PM
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I've dressed some Naples '6A' versions as we speak.

The Hare mask thorax looks great. I've used 'copper' wire instead of 'gold', as it's better.
I'll be trying them out in about 7 hours.
The 'grey shadow' #14 hooks will also work.


I've no problem with 'Hungarian' partridge; as long as it's not 'French'.


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The 'grey shadow' #14 hooks will also work.


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The old CS27 Partridge (of Redditch) ones?

Very similar to the Varivas hook.


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Old 09-05-2008, 11:32 PM
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As long as they have 'square' wire.


I've also been using some, almost antique, Hewitt long shank nickel #12 hooks.

Great for Hawthorne dries etc....


5 1/2 hours to go.


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