Totally agree with mjb? don't get the ball joint

don't want to throw a spanner in the works either. I originally bought the fly mate which was faulty in a couple of areas. I then got in contact with snowbee who recommended i upgrade to the ball joint but wasn't happy with this. It came undone and rotated far to easily. The upright from the pedestal kept coming undone.
Needless to say i wasted a fair bit of money on postage got another vice and then sold it on here. Guess i was a little unlucky? but i did speak to one shop who had sent quite a few back. My advice if possible would be try before you buy. I'm not an anti snowbee either normally a great company i have numerous items of theirs i'm pleased with.