My two brilliant flies on rivers - 2011

[Spider]

Am hoping the above two flies come up on screen !

The CDC fly is my CDC and Herl, a great great fly on rivers, especially when there are terrestrials about, or nothing at all hatching . I used it so much and so successfully at the start of the season, towards mid season, that I had to stop. Its only weakness is the CDC, which requires management and patience. In the pics, the peacock herl looks bit bushy , and same with the CDC. The body is actually quite thin, but i think i tied in a double strand of herl. I guess trout take it for a big trapped terrestrial. Spencer tested it and lost a 2lb Grayling with it. I caught dozers of trout on it.

The next fly is even better - taken from Bob Wyatts DVD , its a (very) slimmed down Deer Hair Sedge . Bob claims he uses this 80% (!) of the time on rivers, and that it also covers spinners. Its a brilliant , brilliant fly - it worked for sedge hatches, Olives, and when no flies were coming off , from when i started using it a few months ago. I tie it with rabbit fur ( i find it spikier than hare's fur .....sometimes mix squirral in too ) , and deer hair wing, on a Tiemco 103BL hook, usually size 17 . My tying here isnt the best - the wing looks too cocked, and should perhaps sit a bit flatter to the body.

If the pics dont come up , will post again, but these flies are truly deadly and worth trying.

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Forgot to say - thanks to Scratch ( Rob) for his help with the pics.

[flytier07]

Thanks for posting Spider-they really look and obviously ARE the business

[wingman]

Very nice John, I can certainly see them doing some damage, liking the second one in particular useing 2 simple natural materials for a very effective result.

[christy27]

Thanks for posting as well, nice flies and easy enough to tie. I was just thinking about what to tie next-thanks

Chris.

[horses50]

Its true what they say "less is better" must tie some of those up for next year.

[sarg]

These two paterns would work just as well on any still water. Great flies

[splashtestdummy]

Spot on, great work.

[Spider]

Originally Posted by christy27

Thanks for posting as well, nice flies and easy enough to tie. I was just thinking about what to tie next-thanks

Chris.

Chris, definitely do a few of these. The second one was so good that i ended up constantly tyimng replacements during these season as i was using and losing them a lot. It will be the cornerstone of my flx box next season.

The CDC and Herl is something I came up with when messing around. It uses the Petitjean tool and the lightest emerger hook i can find - the Tiemco TMC 212Y, size 11 and 13.

They sound big, but they are more like 12 and 14, and remember the body is well below the surface so it probably isnt monstrous to the fish. Dont be afraid to use plenty of cdc . 2 or 3 ( for size 11 ) bushy long feathers are best.

Best features

-Lands lightly
-Trout love peacock herl
-Natural looking wing

I have passed it to Fulling Mill for a look!

The other one is very handy because you can flatten the wing easily at the riverside, to give a broader more flared wing, which is useful at sedge time.

I struggled with sedges initally this year but found that this, and Wyatts DHE , worked well. I tried Ollie Edwards Tape Wing Cddis a good fee times - great concept , but didnt come near either of Bob Wyatt's flies in terms of results.

Thanks Bob!

[spencer]

Very Nice, I have used the CDC and HERL Emerger and it worked well

Nice one John

Cheers
Spencer

[black knight]

I like your Wyatt's DHE. It's a very successful fly.

BK