Bug bond ????????

[maharg]

Bug Bond
Ok been prowling around this new product for some time wondering if I can find enough uses for it to justify the cost.
Pros and Cons.

Pros
It does set quickly
Easy to apply a tiny amount in the right place
Highlights/magnifies the colour of the material under it.
Makes flies more durable.

cons
Some talk of it being left sticky
Fairly expensive for the resin
Very expensive for the torch, struggle with the justification for this?
Not suitable if you tie in natural daylight. I would imagine it goes off to quick.

What do you think guys?
Any other comments especially from those of you who actually use it.
ATB
Graham

[Scratch]

Been using it for while now Graham, and the only benefits are in the speed of the curing. The finish is HORRIBLE... sticky and rubberry. Not too much of a problem though if you're prepared to finish with a coat of Sally. It's nowhere near as tough as they say either.... can pick it off with one dig from yer fingernail... finish with sally

Unless you can think of a specific use where it would be a distinct advantage/time saver, and would make very frequent use of it, then give it a wide berth.

[silversedge]

Bought this stuff from ebay to try
Fly tying UV Cure Resin refill bottle lure adhesive
just as good,but i must admit,i prefer to sally me buzzers

[maharg]

Cheers for that Rob.
I really wasn't sure about it at all, especially quoting somewhere in the region of £30 for a torch to set the stuff!!!
Will spend my pennies on some other bits of fluff and stuff to add to my collection
Never can have enough feathers.

Thanks for your reply to Wullie.

[stevekale]

Has its uses. The thing to remember is that it is not a glue. Neither the thick or thin versions are intended to be used as a glue. The stickiness is relative and short lived. If you compare it with a UV resin then the stickiness is much less - it is in large part a property of the glue aspect of the resin. With the non-glue formulations the stickiness doesn't last long. For buzzers though I do still give them a finishing coat of Sally's. (And I still prefer glue formulations for things like Copper Johns.)

It's a superb product for saltwater flies and can replace almost any use of epoxy or products like Softex (used to fix hair in place to create shape and prevent fouling). Here's a different application for the thin formulation in a saltwater fly, to coat and bring a fantastic finish to foam that's been painted with a permanent market:

My torch cost $6.

[maharg]

Cheers Steve.
I can see it as a great product to replace messy old epoxy!!!
My tyings are generally small trout flies and I just wondered if it was a better product than say Hard as Nails.

[Fishtec Tackle]

I still can't get around the idea of using Bug bond, then putting SH Hard as nails on top.

What's the other advantage other than building the thickness up on flies such as 'buzzers' with bugbond, then putting the extra coat of SH

I see no other advantage, other than its convenience, to using one type of resin to cure a fly, then curing the 'stickyness' with something else? Seems ludacris to do the same job twice?

Why not just use one / two coats of SH in the first place?

Although, for Pike or Saltwater flies, it is a totally different story. I can understand the usage of Bugbond for applying the eyes, building large heads etc, keeping the heads soft/flexible (fishylike) unlike epoxy.

KJ

[captainpurple]

I use it quite regularly for tying saltwater patterns, but I also use it for finishing my flies and then top it off with veniards cellire clear varnish.

works well....but is quite pricey....

[stevekale]

Originally Posted by kjenkins

What's the other advantage other than building the thickness up on flies such as 'buzzers' with bugbond, then putting the extra coat of SH

I see no other advantage, other than its convenience, to using one type of resin to cure a fly, then curing the 'stickyness' with something else? Seems ludacris to do the same job twice?

Why not just use one / two coats of SH in the first place?


KJ

I find it takes a lot more than two coats of SH to do a buzzer. More like 6 or more. That versus one coat of the light formulation of BB (I use the OEM stuff), a zap that cures in seconds and then a light coat of SH that's left to dry. Want a thorax, apply, let it droop - zap. Done.

As to the stickiness, this is very mild and disappears overnight so I don't use the SH to clear the stickiness but rather to add gloss. Is it needed? Probably not but old habits die hard.

[Scratch]

Originally Posted by kjenkins

I still can't get around the idea of using Bug bond, then putting SH Hard as nails on top.

What's the other advantage other than building the thickness up on flies such as 'buzzers' with bugbond, then putting the extra coat of SH

I see no other advantage, other than its convenience, to using one type of resin to cure a fly, then curing the 'stickyness' with something else? Seems ludacris to do the same job twice?

Why not just use one / two coats of SH in the first place?

It ain't rocket science mate..... Bugbond sets instantly - advantage. The finish is pants - disadvantage. Coat of Sally solves the problem.