Hooks for Sedgehogs?

[shpeil]

I don't know much about sedgehogs. I've been using Kamasan B160s in 10s and 12s and fishing them as a dry fly - either on its own or for keeping up a couple of wee nymphs fishing washing line style.

Watching a Davie McPhail video this morning, on his "olive bumble sedgehog" video he uses a Kamasan B110 size 10 which seems like a rather heavy hook for a dry fly. I realised that I don't know how sedghogs are intended to be fished. Maybe it's more of a wet fly?! What hooks do you use and how do you fish them?

Cheers

Neil

[maharg]

The B160 is a short hook as you know with a good wide gape. I generally use a straight hook like a B170.
Not sure what Davy is trying to acheive with the B110, perhaps an emerging profile.
You could switch to the B100 if you want a lighter hook in the same profile as the B110.

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p.s. the hogs work well as static dries, slowly tweaked or pulled down and then left to pop back up. Watch out for slashing takes with this method

[SharkeyP]

I think the 'sedgehog' is a broad church. I've tied and caught on Davy McPhail's Sedhehog Bumble (though I got the one pictured in a swap), which is really a classic wet fly given the deer hair treatment.

Top dropper pulled through a wave worked for me.


I tie a dry sedge pattern I call The Egg Hog on Grip 11011BL hooks, Tiemco 103BLs or Fly Tying Boutiques's 103BLs. I usually fish it static but it has picked up a few when twitched in the surface. My most succesful dry fly last season.


Both can be considered Sedgehogs but there's a world of difference between them. Just the bunches of deer hair tied in in common.


SharkeyP

[madjoni]

Hi Neil
You can try hayabussa 751....excellent hook for that kind of flies

[pete]

Originally Posted by madjoni

Hi Neil
You can try hayabussa 751....excellent hook for that kind of flies

Isnt the 751 the same as a B160?

[SharkeyP]

Originally Posted by pete

Isnt the 751 the same as a B160?

Pretty damn close! Short shank specials. I use them for Blobs in bigger sizes (8 & 6) and spiders in smaller sizes (14 & 16). I would have thought a longer shank is advantageous when imitating a sedge, or just tying in three bunches of deer hair!


SharkeyP

[noeyedeer]

Kamasan B420 Hooks - Sportfish

[madjoni]

Originally Posted by pete

Isnt the 751 the same as a B160?

almost the same,except haybausa is cheaper

[Gander]

When the Sedgehog first came to my attention, they were being tied on Partridge E1A hooks. I tend to tie them on the Kamasan B170. The B175 is usable, but does take away from the fly's buoyancy, so is probably a poor choice. Also recommended, (by Stan Headley I believe) is the Fulling Mill 31550, but I've never tried them myself.

[andypandy]

I normally use B170's for stuff like that. Or just a like wire wet fly hook.

Andy