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Old 17-02-2011, 03:20 PM
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still keeping the patterns relatively simple after a winter layoff. Does anyone else suffer after a season away from the vice? I need to hammer out the simple patterns first before I'm back into the swing of things or things tend to go a bit belly up with the more complex patterns.

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Still trying to get the hang of the arty flourish that Rob nails every time. For something so static and still-life as a fly it's proving a little tricky to compose the shot. Rob, help. How do you go about composing the shot, or is it just a case of 'see what comes out'? Also, do you find dark flies against the blue background more difficult than lighter patterns? The olive/furnace pattern was much easier to get right.




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Old 17-02-2011, 03:58 PM
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Nice looking flees Stuart
Could do with a bit of a tidy up on the heads for us humans though
Is there a bit of straggle in there that I see sticking out.
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Nice looking flees Stuart
Could do with a bit of a tidy up on the heads for us humans though
Is there a bit of straggle in there that I see sticking out.
Cheers dabhoy, yes there's UV straggle in both of them. You're right about the heads, strangely they don't look that bad in the hand. The camera reveals all sins.

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Still trying to get the hang of the arty flourish that Rob nails every time. For something so static and still-life as a fly it's proving a little tricky to compose the shot. Rob, help. How do you go about composing the shot, or is it just a case of 'see what comes out'? Also, do you find dark flies against the blue background more difficult than lighter patterns? The olive/furnace pattern was much easier to get right.
He he! Thanks for the kind words mate... but you haven't seen my recycle bin! It's quite easy to compose using the blu-tac and clip m.o. A lot depends on the type of fly, the light, and as you say, the background. Some ties lend themselves more to a shot angled front to back (as yours above - fine shot by the way), and some the other way round. Just a case of getting a feel for it Stu... If you remember to always fire off a few arty shots after you've done the standard side-on shot, you'll soon increase yer success rate.
Predominantly dark (or white/very pale) flies always need a little more attention, usually in the way of + or - the odd stop (+ for black/dark, and - for white/pale). Changing your metering mode can help aswell... if yer getting close in, partial metering, or spot can both be worth a go.
The reason yer olive one was easy to get right is because it's fairly mid-toned, and a similar value to the blue background.
As always... diffused (overcast) light is the way forward. Direct sunlight is a real pain in the hoop.... but if you've got the time and patience, it can throw up some dramatic effects.
I nearly always shoot with the timer on 2 secs aswell Stu.. just gives you time to shade the fly a little with yer hand if yer getting any pesky strong highlights.

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He he! Thanks for the kind words mate... but you haven't seen my recycle bin! It's quite easy to compose using the blu-tac and clip m.o. A lot depends on the type of fly, the light, and as you say, the background. Some ties lend themselves more to a shot angled front to back (as yours above - fine shot by the way), and some the other way round. Just a case of getting a feel for it Stu... If you remember to always fire off a few arty shots after you've done the standard side-on shot, you'll soon increase yer success rate.
Predominantly dark (or white/very pale) flies always need a little more attention, usually in the way of + or - the odd stop (+ for black/dark, and - for white/pale). Changing your metering mode can help aswell... if yer getting close in, partial metering, or spot can both be worth a go.
The reason yer olive one was easy to get right is because it's fairly mid-toned, and a similar value to the blue background.
As always... diffused (overcast) light is the way forward. Direct sunlight is a real pain in the hoop.... but if you've got the time and patience, it can throw up some dramatic effects.
I nearly always shoot with the timer on 2 secs aswell Stu.. just gives you time to shade the fly a little with yer hand if yer getting any pesky strong highlights.

Hope that helps mate
Nice one, thanks Rob. I know you tell me these things often enough, but it's good to have it written down for reference. This post is going in my bookmarks. Cheers mate.
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What camera are you useing stuart if you don't mind me asking, it seems to take very good detail shots?
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What camera are you useing stuart if you don't mind me asking, it seems to take very good detail shots?
It's a Nikon D200, Mark, with a Nikon Micro-Nikkor 105 mm - F/2.8 lens. It takes some sh!t ones too.

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Wouldn't worry too much about neat heads. I used to strive to get them neat and tidy, then my ex fishing partner uses the most scruffy flies ever with bits of loose thread hanging all over the place-and outfishes me hands down! Not the reason he's my ex-fishing patner by the way, but he now lives in the angler's paradise of British Columbia chasing steelheads and giant sturgeon and I can't afford to go visit just now
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It's a Nikon D200, Mark, with a Nikon Micro-Nikkor 105 mm - F/2.8 lens. It takes some sh!t ones too.
Only £1500 on amazon stuart, i think without the lens......why do you always buy the cheap cameras.
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Only £1500 on amazon stuart, i think without the lens......why do you always buy the cheap cameras.
I think I will have to get one to improve my flies
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