Small River streamer help ?

[Englander]

Hi Guys

Im after a bit of advice, i want to try streamers on the River carron a small river in stirlinghire this season, last seaon i played with wets and nymphs to great effect

This coming season i hope to master dry flys and streamers !

I was planning to start with woolly bug#ers, figure there quick to tie so no great loss if snagged

What colours ? what sizes ? and should i add more weight than a gold bead ??

[Vermontdrifter]

Only one I can give you an answer to is Black or Olive for the color. For the other questions you need to tell us the average size of the fish, any deep pools and is the water flow fast or slow?

Take care

Terry

[bbamboo]

For the woolley ****** I only do black I find they always work well on any river

[neilb]

ive found for smaller streams/rivers its quiet important to get the streamer down a little quicker than on bigger rivers.could be that the holding area/strike zone is smaller so you need to have the fly fishing at its optimum depth as quickly as possible. as for patterns, black/olive wollies serve me well.

[andygrey]

Try a gold head damsel in S12/S10 stripped back like hell through a small pool that you know contains fish and you probably won't go wrong. It can be very effective but it doesn't feel much like fly fishing.

Andy

[lauren]

Hi Englander, I tie my wooly buggers on size 10 and put a hothead on them.
The dressing is:- Kamasan 175 size 10, Tail Black Marabou, Rib silver oval Body black micro chenille palmered with black cock hackle, leave sufficient room for a couple of turns of fluo red micro chenille at the head, this can be changed for fluo orange, lime and pink. I first used this in BC and have since caught fish on the Tweed and Teviot.

[taff]

Englander,

I use two buggers, both size 10. The first is black marabou, peacock herl body, black hackle with copper rib. Weight is a minimum of 3mm tungsten bead.

The second is olive tail, olive dubbed body, copper rib and olive grizzly hackle again with tungsten weight.

Fish the down and across, upstream stripped, straight across stripped and also try fishing them like an upstream nymph in faster water, pot holes, behind rocks etc, let them hit bottom then a couple of strips.

They've worked everywhere I've tried them.

Good luck mate.

Paul

[Vermontdrifter]

Black or dark olive Wooley B*ggers are one of my standards. You can even gink up an unweighted one and skate it across the surface which can produce some nice strikes. The weight is going to depend on depth and speed of water. I've got some which are tied with dumbell eyes to get me down very deep veryfast in the instance of a crevice in the river bed or the deep hole at the bottom of a small waterfall or sluice. On the normally weighted B*ggers I use a dark bead as I don't find that the gold adds anything to the presentation and in some cases seems to actually scare fish away.

Take care

Terry

[andy macbog]

I add an underbody of lead and with and without a bead. Same as above . . . black and olive but just to add to the foregoing, I do like a grizzle (black and white hackle) as it creates a great pattern of light around the fly, sometimes paired with a black hackle.

Keep the tail a bit short on some of them as they can get alot of plucks for only a few hook-ups. They probably look quite imposing to some fish though reading through John Greer's ferox book recently has reminded that trout'll take prey uip to half their body size (and pike and perch can be more ambitious, with sometimes fatal results).

Andy

[Englander]

Thanks guys got plenty of idea's there to start playing with ...................

What about a dubbing loop of black marabou for the body ? nice and soft should give plenty of movement.....?

Anyone tried other colours than black or olive ? What about "shock" colours worth a try ?? River Brownies im after...........