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Old 23-01-2011, 06:36 PM
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There was some chat on the thread on whip finish tools that wandered off the original subject (not often that happens ) - I think it was me who wandered off... anyroad, I thought it might be useful to those beginners to fly-tying to see a demonstration of a hand-tied whip finish. To be honest, I was looking for an excuse to have a go at trying out the HD movie mode on my camera (that I have had for 6 months) and have never used. In fact I have never made a movie file of any sort before. So, nothing ventured....

I made 3 files. I uploaded them to my webspace rather than delve into You Tube territory - the viewer is really a bit small to see these things properly. By doing it the way I have you can see them full screen size, which is 1280 x 720 px. The frame rate is 50 fps. I'm not sure if this is overkill, but I don't seem to be able to reduce it. The files play smooth as a baby's bottom in the editing software (Canon ZoomBrowser EX), but when I download them they choose to play in QuickTime and they jump and skip. Any ideas? If I change to RealPlayer, the first play skips, but subsequent plays are silky smooth. Anyway, feedback welcome on the whole issue of uploading and downloading .mov files - I am so far out my comfort zone on that one...

Oh, the other thing to point out is that the files are between 70 MB and 110 MB in size, so take 3 or 4 minutes to download on a half decent broadband connection.

So, I'm ready for my close-up Mr DeMille...

First up, I stuck a big old cod hook in the vice and ran up a simple spider with a huge grizzle hackle and some nice string I found in the kitchen cupboard that changes colour every foot - brilliant - shows up really well. I did a whip finish on it, showing the way you can use your free hand to hold back the dressing so the fibres don't get trapped. You will have to ignore the lack of neatness - string good for demonstration, very poor for tying flies! Also, the cod hook would only sit very shallow in the vice, and it wobbled all over the shop! Now, be aware, this first one is me doing it the way I tie flies, which is left-handed.

Whip Finish left-handed

OK - it's a long time since I tried it right-handed (Oo-er, Mrs ), but for you right-handers, I swung it all round and had another go. Er, irony: after complaining about tying-threads not suiting left-handers due to the direction of twist, turns out my multi-coloured string unravelled when I used it right-handed! Bring on the Sub! I went and got some fluoro orange braid and left out the hackle bit...

Whip Finish right-handed

Putting it all together in the normal situation with a normal hook and normal thread...

Normal Use

Takes exactly 10 seconds and anyone can do it. So why the need for the tool?

I didn't add any soundtrack, partly because the camera (with its tiny mono mike) was about 6 feet behind my shoulder and partly because I was too embarrassed to subject you to my voice . But if anything is not clear, I am happy to answer by way of this thread.

Hope it is of some use (and you can get the .movs to play smoothly!)

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This is a welcome thing for me ... but ... getting very large download times from the links?!?

I don't know if this is a localised problem for me or not but first thing that springs to mind is to ask if Youtube is a better option ... may just be a problem this end?!?
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14 mins left on the first download - call me impatient if you like .
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This is a welcome thing for me ... but ... getting very large download times from the links?!?

I don't know if this is a localised problem for me or not but first thing that springs to mind is to ask if Youtube is a better option ... may just be a problem this end?!?
Erm, I did explain that I went for the big file option, rather than You Tube. Takes about 3 or 4 minutes per file on my BT connection. That not OK?

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14 mins left on the first download - call me impatient if you like .
Good things come to those who wait...
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Took about 49 seconds on this coal powered thing at work
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Ah right - problem this end then; will look into it.
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Good stuff! Do they play smooth?
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Dunno mate... we've got a stone age software set up too... couldn't find owt to play it on! Will have a butchers at home tomorrow.
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First one down and it runs lovely and clear, many thanks.

Now for the others.
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Dunno mate... we've got a stone age software set up too... couldn't find out to play it on! Will have a butchers at home tomorrow.
OK - sounds good - main thing is that folk can download and save the files for reference. Just hope they don't skip and jump when played!

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