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Old 16-12-2010, 05:31 AM
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Morning ladies and gents and seasons greetings to you all!!

I love peacock quill but I hate the time it takes stripping it with my fingers or with an eraser. Does anyone have the SbS and list of chemicals needed to do this? Is it dangerous etc?

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Old 16-12-2010, 05:50 AM
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This is a guess but................I burn a lot of hackles for wet flies and all you do there is burn off the mini fibers like those on P cock herls.

3/4 cup warm water, 1/4 cup bleach, add some herl and swish it around for about a min or so. Use a fork or whatever and remove it and dunk into a solution of vinegar and water mixed about the same way. The vinegar will stop the burn of the bleach. If the fibers are not gone after a minute either leave them in longer or boost a bit more bleach into the mix.

if that time takes off the fuzz then you are good to go. When using the stripped quills you want to soak them so they are not brittle but then you knew that.

Hope that works for you,

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I use a hot wax method to assist in the removal of the fine flue from the Peacock eye feathers.

Use Parrafin Wax pellets (from a hobby craft shop) or melt 6 tea lights in an old pan as you will not be able to use it for food again (or buy a cheap pan for a few pounds.

The safest method is to use a double boiler which is the wax pan located inside a larger pan of boiling water, this limits the maximum temperature that the wax can be exposed to, providing that you dont allow the water bath to boil dry.

You can use the wax pan directly over a heat source BUT NEVER LEAVE THE PAN UNATTENDED, THEY ARE MUCH MORE RISKY THAN A CHIP PAN. If in a rush, I do them this way but as soon as the wax has melted I remove the pan from the heat.

Select the peacock eye feathers you need to strip and with a bit of central stem left on to hold move them about in the wax bath to ensure that each eye fibre has been exposed to the liquid wax. I then scrape off the excess wax on the edge of the pan then place them on a non absorbent surface to harden.

Once the wax has hardened fully and is cold, use a dubbing needle to seperate one quill fibre from the eye gently working from the dottom of the eye ttowards the top. While you are holding the wax coated fibre between my thumb on one hand and index finger pull the fibre through to scrape off all of the wax, all of the fine flue will come off at the same time leaving a nice clean stripped quill fibre.

I wax dip all of the eyes I need then bag them up and as it only takes a few seconds to strip each fibre, I do them when tying each fly.

Worth a try.

I should try the bleach method as it sounds like it may be quicker, my big concern was toning down the contrast between the dark and light sections on the fibre.

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Old 16-12-2010, 05:05 PM
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The hot wax method is a disaster. Using thin bleach is much better. Thin bleach is much weaker than the standard issue Clorox in the US and so the 1/4 - 3/4 cup ratio needs to be increased.Have a large inspection jar of clear tap water to hand and check the stripping frequently on the first one to gauge the required length of time. Some baking soda and water (2 tablespoons per US gallon is recommended by A K Best) can be used to neutralise them when done. Works like a charm. I have described this process in more detail here before so just search this forum.
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Thanks for the replies guys, I love peacock quill and it drove me nuts doing it by hand, think the bleach method is the way to go so will try it over the weekend and let you know the results.

Thanks again, happy holidays, Jim
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I support the bleach camp; I have been using it for some time and it works.

I work with a local Czech bleach, so I won't be recommending a particular brand. Just to avoid those perfumed ones and stick to (diluted) industrial ones, they do the business without smelling of roses &c.

My recommendation is to use a forceps to swirl the peacock eye in the bleach solution until the little fluff starts to fall off. Do not wait until all of it is gone - the quill would be too brittle. Strip the last few bits of fluff with your thumb nail before tying the quill on.

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That last bit is good advice. The inspection jar will help ensure that you don't over do it.
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