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A Pitsford Pirate #2 DT
A Pitsford Pirate #2 DT
Published by Carlos
05-03-2010
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I better declare my interests first. I am a long term fan of Stuart's lines and have gradually converted all my lines over to his. Why? Well there are three things: memory, cost and coating. In my opinion they are a fantastic casting line with the lowest memory I have ever come accross.

I have asked Stuart about #2 weights before. But until now a #3 is the lowest weight. So Stuart asked me to try one of the first production trial runs of his new #2 line. I have to stress this is his first trial run and he himself is not happy with it ......... although I couldn't spot all the flaws Stuart has seen.

At present I can only compare this to the Sage quite taper #2 which is my line of choice so far for both my Orvis Superfine and Hardy Glass #2's. My first impressions are after a brief test on the Test at Wherwell Priory and a lengthier test on the small reservoir which is a part of the Teise.

Appearance:
There were no real imperfections that I could find, although Stuart disagrees and is getting another run made, and I have looked twice. The coating felt a little rough to hand compared to the Sage but after loading onto the reel for the third time (I had to take more and more backing off) i felt smooth as anything. Not sure whether that is my mind playing tricks but it is fine to the touch now and has the same glassy supple feel to Stuarts other lines.

Colour. Must admit I was very skeptical of the dark chocolate brown colour even though its the least important thing. But it works on the water I fished (Test and clear reservoir). I think my only doubt is the evenings, might lose it in the gloom. So I might put a small high vis band on the loop. One thing that would be worth thinking about is you boys who fish the northern or Exmoor peaty streams with spooky wild ones, this could really work there.

Memory.
It's outstanding. You'll see from the photos below (although you have to look carefully) but it is sitting in between a new and used end of a Sage Quite DT #2. The difference is remarkable, as a #2 it is fantastic ........ even without fishing it was straight as anything I have ever come across.

Casting.
On my first test I couldn't really confirm to much in the wind. But the turn over seemed good and the line profile allowed good presentation with a Rod Dibble braided 5ft tapered leader (attached with braided loop) and a spider 4lb tippet 5ft, no dropper. This I generally tried with little line out to see that the line profile allows for loading and presentation. On the second test there was very little wind and I couldn't see any issues at all, which at very short range is going to be aided by the lack of memory. In fact the presentation between the Sage and the PP was undetectable to me. The main difference is the lie of the line on still water, PP is straight Sage is a little coiled. As with all PP lines it is very easy to shoot with little loading so the coating is spot on as far as I can feel.

I want to give it a real try out whenever I can over the coming weeks and months. It's the little delicate turnovers where any line this light needs to come into it's own and when you're fishing in earnest you will detect any flaws.

In conclusion I'd say the profile gives the right presentation, the colour I am yet to be convinced of, the casting is great and shoots excellently and the memory, or lack of it, is truly outstanding. Also it's made in the UK. The only reason I'll keep the Sage on the other reel is to keep the comparison going and to have an alternative colour. Otherwise the PP is to my mind going to be the better line in the long run because of the low memory ........ Stuart has another winner on his hands.

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By Philogic on 06-03-2010, 06:45 AM
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I too am a fan of Stewarts lines and after reading the report by Carlos the only thing that worries me is the colour. I fish the Ewenny in S. Wales which in summer is completely covered by a canopy of trees making it dark and difficult to see the line [for me and the fish]. At my age I now need a light coloured line so I hope Stewart will have a re-think on this. I will buy one anyway when they become available and try a coloured band as suggested by Carlos.
regards Phil
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By PitsfordPirate on 06-03-2010, 10:02 PM
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Thanks for the review and feedback Carl, most appreciated.

When I had those prototypes run, I wasn't quite 100% with them, maybe a tad overly critical, however thats just me, I wanted perfection.

I therefore had a wee play around with some different braids for the core and now am totally happy with how they have turned out.

Phil, don't worry, I haven't discontinued my ivory lines in WF and DT, they are still available.

Tightlines!

The Pirate.
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By alex cairnie on 08-03-2010, 12:22 PM
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i would have read the whole review but got annoyed movin the screen back and forward.....



I will however add that any lines ive had from PP have been top notch .

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By BlueOne on 08-03-2010, 05:57 PM
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A dark floating line, i have been looking for this for some time. Are other line weights also available in brown? DT F lines that is? I think that shall be my pick when i shall replace my arsenal. Unless i find something floating and in dark color close to me....which is not very likely.

Is there a demand for dark floating lines in Uk so that you have started to market them, or are you going against the wind (and i am all for it)?

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By wifly on 17-03-2010, 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by alex cairnie View Post
i would have read the whole review but got annoyed movin the screen back and forward.....

Just in case you haven't tried this, holding down the Ctrl key while revolving the wheel on your mouse makes the page larger or smaller depending on the direction you scroll the wheel.

Addendum
Hadn't realised just giving PC advice (above) also automatically gave a rating.
so pleased to make this editl

For the record I've bought at least six Pitsford Pirate lines and they have all been excellent - low memory and good to cast. Delivery is always prompt, too.

Particulalrly like the camohogany!
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By graham123 on 11-11-2010, 07:33 PM
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can someone tell me where to buy these pitsford pirate lines from i have tried looking on ebay and cant find them ?
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By squeeks on 11-11-2010, 08:30 PM
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here ya go, just PM him. Top lines and great service!

http://www.flyforums.co.uk/fly-fishi...e-bonanza.html


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can someone tell me where to buy these pitsford pirate lines from i have tried looking on ebay and cant find them ?
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