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Sage 99 Review
Sage 99 Review
A 'new' concept in fly fishing?
Published by Bumps
16-12-2009
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I should say that I have not fished this rod, but I test-cast the rod extensively at Sportfish Reading (fabulous shop and endlessly helpful staff), in both 6 and 7 weights (all are 9ft 9in in length).

Appearance. The blank is a very dark 'forest green' with cosmetics up to Sage's usual standard ie high. Rods 5wt and below come with a wooden and nickel reel seat, of which I am not a fan; I would prefer all metal or metal and carbon; I am always paranoid abuot damaging wooden reel seats and about making them swell etc. Better materials are available nowadays in my opinion. Six weights and above have a satin 'dark nickel' metal seat and a short cork and composite cork fighting butt. The blank is gloss as all Sages are but I personally am a fan of matt blanks. The handle is slim and comfortable, providing good feel, and the cork is of high quality.

Casting. This rod is billed as having a more flexible (but not slow) action, flexing right down the blank to give more flexibility in casting (ie single handed spey, roll casting etc), as well as overhead. The 9ft 9in length is supposed to - according to Sage - make the rod cast like a 9ft rod but fish like a 10ft. In use it is noticeably light and does not seem to have any more inertia to overcome than a 9 footer, and is extremely pleasant in use. It does all types of casts well, though (and this may have been my casting) it was easy to get a tailing loop in the forward cast when casting overhead and double hauling. Roll casts and spey casts are easy. The more flexible blank is noticeable from the off, compared to say a Z Axis, which is far stiffer. The action is still quite quick and it has no problem throwing a long line and can still land casts relatively delicately. My only issue is that the blank felt - to me - linear in action, that is to say that the feeling of flex was uniform down the blank. I am used to Loop rods, which have been configured for this kind of fishing as a given, and have a wonderful action for it. They have soft-ish tips with progressively increasing power evident as the blank flexes. They flex a lot, and recover quickly, which I think is the effect Sage is after with the 99. Effectively you feel as if you reach a 'power zone' further down the blank with most Loops that I have fished, which gives you the ability to shoot lots of line and deal with wind, even though the rod is not a typical 'fast action'. Unfortunately I never reached this 'zone' with the Sage (again possibly my casting rather than the fault of the rod) but it ultimately left me feeling a little cold. While I liked the Sage well enough when I tried it, after evaluating it against what I knew of my Loop rods, I was less impressed, especially when you take price into account.

Value for money. The 99 has a RRP of £629. There - I said it. The Loop Multi, which I think would be as good (for me anyway) as a seatrout rod or similar (my intended purpose for this type of rod) is under £300. The incoming Loop Evotec will be under the £300 barrier and comes with an all-composite grip and fighting butt and all-alloy reel seats. Even the new Opti River (billed as a specialist light salmon/seatrout rod) is just over £400, and comes as a 5 piece for easy travel. But even the modest Loop Multi would appear to do this kind of fishing better than the 99 in my opinion, and Loop have years of experience at exactly this kind of rod.

Summary. While this type of rod is, in my experience, maybe a new thing for Sage, others have been doing it for longer. When price is taken into account, I believe this rod just doesn't cut it against the opposition, especially when others cost less than half the price. If you don't know me, I am not a 'Sage-knocker', far from it; I own 3 of them already (a Z Axis, a TXL and an Xi2 - all bought at discount however) and they are all great for their intended purposes. Some Sages are worth the premium in my humble opinion. However I just cannot get overly excited about this rod (certainly not for my itended use for it - seatrout), especially not at the price. Nice rod; if you have to have a Sage then fine, but for me, it's just not as good as some others. It's also far too expensive when it doesn't, as some other Sages do, prove that it's comprehensively better than the (often cheaper) competition.
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By Buzz on 16-12-2009, 02:35 PM
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Thanks for that.
I think a lot of people will just jump in and purchase these without actually understand what they are buying.
They are not really ment for overhead casting and "nymphing" means a lot of diiferent things to different people.
From what i can gather its really a single handed spey rod.
Thanks for taking the time.
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By Walker on 16-12-2009, 06:44 PM
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Let's not forget that there is more than one type of nymphing. Having tried the 4 weight in this rod, it performed well french nymphing, high sticking and czech nymphing. Certainly not worth 600 sheets hence why mine was returned sharpish as well as other reasons.

Walker
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By zoomer on 16-12-2009, 07:38 PM
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absolutely excellent review, comparing the new with the known gives a good perspective, interesting on the loop too, just clicks with experience of them.
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By scotty9 on 16-12-2009, 08:16 PM
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Zoomer, you mean loop don't you?

Great review bumps. I find it amazing that premium priced rods are being brought out in the current climate. I would have thought by shaving say £100-200 off of the price they would likely increase sales and eventually profit.
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By Mrtrout on 16-12-2009, 08:21 PM
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Nice review Bumps, thanks for taking the time.
I don't think I would spend that amount on an occasional sea trouting rod.
I do like my Sages, but like you, all bought at discount prices.
S.
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By zoomer on 16-12-2009, 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted by scotty9 View Post
Zoomer, you mean loop don't you?
yes, edited, sorry, got a purchase in mind
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By rusty on 18-12-2009, 03:49 PM
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I thought the review was excellent. But it poses some questions.
Sage seem to have a major share of fast and performance fly rods at premium prices. In the current downturn they realise that there is a limit to expansion of sales in that sector. So it seems the new rods are aimed at another market sector. ie fishing rods rather than just casting tools.
Over the last two years rods have become faster and faster. Indeed they are still getting faster if you study the data.
Casters and fishers seem to have been swept along with the advertising hype and if you do not possess or wish to posess such a fast rod you are at risk of being considered a bit of misfit.
The same arguement occurs when considereing Orvis rods. Mid flex or tip flex?
As the realisation impacts, the appreciation of mid flex rods as fishing rods could be a real winner for Sage capturing some of the Orvis mid flex market.
Rusty
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By Bigfly on 19-12-2009, 08:09 AM
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A great review! Many salient points. What can I say, the price for a Sage will take most of our breath away.
Are they worth it? I've been casting them for about thirty years.
I still fish a 20 year old LL 5 wt,8.6, an older SP 8wt. an XP, the new Z's as well. 9ft. 9.5 and 10.
I also fish their new switch Z 6wt 11 ft (lovely).
I've never felt good following the crowd. Hell, I usually go the other way, but I do value a fine tool. We have horrendous wind at times, and some very large water to cover with largish flies. That is where speed pays dividends.
Another place a very fast action rod pays, is the set. A fast set is key our spooky fish, these guys can pick it up and drop it in a blink. So you have to set in half a blink. A soft-med action rod though lovely to cast dries, "deflects" under the force of a quick set wjth more nymphing weight, and line out.
It will have a longer set stroke. Often allowing that piggy to get away. As a craftsman, I believe in "the tool for the job", Sure, you can open a beer with a hammer, but why? Unless it's the challenge. That's cool too. (I practise opening beer with the closest object.)
Lastly, they are very light. As I get older and my parts start talking back, the lightness not only allows me to fish longer, but still enjoy it.
Bla,Bla Bla. The 99 will do some tricks. Primary use is probably med. to a little heavier water, close to med distance, and indie nymphing with 2-3 AB sshot and 2-3 Lt to med weighted flies. It throws a slghtly slower and more open loop. than the Z. (You generally don't throw darts with that much stuff on your leader.)
I haven't cast it enough to fall in love, but time will tell. I'll let you know. My general rule is to test drive a rod under field conditions, (not grass), the way I fish. Before I buy. Doing so has prevented a lot of buyers remorse. The next best thing is a thorough reviewer, you guys are in pretty good hands.
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By scotty9 on 19-12-2009, 10:25 AM
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Bigfly very sensible post! My point about price wasn't a go at expensive rods just marketing in the current climate - they must have it sussed though!

Regarding beer, a great trick is opening a bottle of beer with the cap of another bottle. Deadly simple and is a well received useful trick in those situatons where there just isn't a bottle opener! I'll give you a clue though, don't pull the two caps against each other! And it's not very helpful when you get to the last one.
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