17 ft 6 piece telescopic ? Any info would be on it would be great. Or can someone tell me if shakspeare rods 15ft up are likely to have some play or more likely to feel like a stick ?

Do you mean the Shakespeare Expedition 'Dapping' rod?

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VAT increase has pushed up the UK price to £37.85

can't help you on the dapping rod but I've got a couple of the Expedition travel rods and they are a great piece of kit for very little money. Shakey's after sales service is spot on as well.

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Will add another view of the shakey expedition rods, i bought one this summer to take up to mull for a bit of swffing as could only carry a travel rod on motorbike. It snapped whilst casting on the third cast, have had loadsa shakey shuff before that been fine but wasnt impressed to say the least.
Fortunately the tackle shop in balamory sold cheap abu travel rods and i have used this a few times and never had any trouble with it.

yes that,s the one can anyone comment any on telescopic rods